There are independent labs but many manufacturers do it themselves.  I think 
Motorola does it themselves.  Seems like I visited that lab.  
I really don’t know if IP66/67 is a true certification of just a rating that is 
kinda self certified.  

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:35 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Manufacturer MTBF ratings and actual lifespan of product

Who is doing the testing? An independent lab? Who certifies the product for 
IP66/67 rating? Does that have anything to do with determining the MTBF rating?

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 11:31 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

  They do accelerated life testing in some cases.  Baking and shaking them.  
Salt spray, heat, UV etc etc.  And try to extrapolate the results to an 
estimated MTBF.  

  From: Kurt Fankhauser 
  Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:29 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Manufacturer MTBF ratings and actual lifespan of product

  Where do these MTBF ratings come from by radio manufacturers? Are they just 
made up numbers the manufacturer "hopes" that the product can achieve or is 
actual testing done to get to these numbers? I thought i seen a radio once with 
a 90 year MTBF rating. How they hell can they determine that? The components in 
the radio didn't even exist 90 years ago. 

  If a radio manufacture states in the spec sheets that the radio has a 40 year 
MTBF rating but then also admits that after 4 years expect to have problems due 
to a design flaw, what does that mean? Is the expected MTBF rating only good in 
a "lab environment" under "ideal conditions"?

  Seems to me the MTBF is just marketing fluff and actually doesn't mean 
crap....

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