Need to correct my example:

10 devices fail in the first year.  10% per year.   50% would be at 5
years.   So the MTBF is 5 years.   Adam's explanation is likely also
accurate.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> My understanding is that MTBF is usually calculated by taking a certain
> sample size, then seeing how many fail over a certain amount of time.
> From this number you can then use statistics to determine how many years
> the rest will last.
>
> A simplified example would be if you take 100 devices, and 10 fail in the
> first year, then you assume that 5 would fail per year, and the mtbf would
> be 5 years.
>
> Remember 'M' is mean.  Or average.   Which roughly means that only half of
> the units will still be working in that amount of time.  It doesn't mean
> your particular radio will last that long, just that half of the radios
> will last that long.  Yours might fail in 10 days or a year or never....
>
> Personally, I believe that this method is rather dubious since some
> electronic parts exhibit wear-out.   Electrolytic capacitors as an example.
>   Even if very few devices fail at 5 years, there is a good chance that
> most will fail at 20 years after the electrolytic caps have dried out.
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Where do these MTBF ratings come from by radio manufacturers? Are they
>> just made up numbers the manufacturer "hopes" that the product can achieve
>> or is actual testing done to get to these numbers? I thought i seen a radio
>> once with a 90 year MTBF rating. How they hell can they determine that? The
>> components in the radio didn't even exist 90 years ago.
>>
>> If a radio manufacture states in the spec sheets that the radio has a 40
>> year MTBF rating but then also admits that after 4 years expect to have
>> problems due to a design flaw, what does that mean? Is the expected MTBF
>> rating only good in a "lab environment" under "ideal conditions"?
>>
>> Seems to me the MTBF is just marketing fluff and actually doesn't mean
>> crap....
>>
>
>
>
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