would you rather have 6.5 million people on the interstates when they flooded?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sean Heskett 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage


  maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems that the Huston 
evacuation plan for the storm (or really any natural disaster) was to not 
evacuate because they can't move 6.5million people out of the city in time for 
the storm so everyone was supposed to evacuate "in place"...so now the plan is 
to go rescue everyone who stayed in place because it's all flooded.


  I know Texans have their own sort of reasoning and thinking but this seems 
really flawed IMHO.


  am i missing something or do I have my facts wrong?!?!


  -Sean




  On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    No political action better than reaction other than over reaction.


    On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000 members...



      Jaime Solorza


      On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote:

        The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac Dearman. I tired 
to offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort Worth after that and it 
just turned into a bureaucratic nightmare and nothing ever got done. Nobody 
seemed to know who was in charge of communications. The shelters in some parts 
of Houston, as I understand it, are a moving target as well right now. My 
partner's son is currently in one, but it may soon be overtaken by water itself 
and they might have to evac the few hundred people there. It's a mess for sure. 
Someone might consider contacting either Samaritan's Purse or HEB here in TX as 
they have already mobilized huge convoys of trucks with everything from food 
and water to laundry trucks, to shower trucks, etc. I wonder if they have ever 
considered communications? It might be worth while to have them build a few 
comms trucks with hydraulic masts that could be quickly deployed and get 
bandwidth from a nearby wisp for just such events. It could be outfitted with a 
bunch of couches, usb charging ports, and few APs inside/outside to provide 
communications quickly outside of shelters. 


        On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          Was reading at&t is setting up temporary cell towers to bring up 
basic outward commimications and limited data. Its filtering out streaming and 
video. Of course when the politics takes things over, there will be people who 
try suing for it not being "open internet'


          On Aug 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            I would imagine it would keep getting worse as they run out of fuel.


            On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM CBB - Jay Fuller 
<[email protected]> wrote:



              Thanks for posting these 


              Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone


              ----- Reply message -----
              From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]>
              To: <[email protected]>
              Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage
              Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:19 AM


              Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report differing from 
Aug 26 to Aug 27


              https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf
              https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346369A1.pdf


              9 radio stations out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 report)
              6 more switching centers, 11 total out of service (up from 5 on 
Aug 26 report)
              320 total cell towers out of service (up from 315 on Aug 26 
report)


              Will be interesting to see what the Aug 28 report shows, looks 
like they come out at 11:30 each morning


              https://www.fcc.gov/harvey















              On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jason Wilson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                From NANOG last night.....



                Hurrican Harvey DIRS report

                5 radio stations out of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and 
KAYK)
                149,909 cable and wireline subscribers out of service (5 
switching centers
                out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup power)
                4% of cell sites out of service (Aransas, Reugio and San 
Patricio, TX have
                more than 50% of cell sites out of service)
                9 PSAPs out of service or calls re-routed to another PSAP

                Aransas, TX is very rural, with only 19 cell sites, 18 out of 
service.


                https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf









                On Aug 27, 2017 10:32 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain 
areas, with > 10 inches expected in the next few days. Rockport seems to be the 
hardest hit.


                  bp
                  <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                  On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

                    Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down 
in Hill Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San Antonio and 
especially Houston  but haven't heard about Austin, Llano, Marble Falls, etc. I 
have some Cambium 180s spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay safe

                    Jaime Solorza








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