Or change building codes to make all new construction impervious/resistant to the threat.
From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage just playing devil's advocate but...if i lived in the path of an avalanche up here in the mountains and my house/neighborhood/city kept getting hit every [N] winter(s) with an avalanche that crushed everything in it's path and the rest of the country kept sending money for me/us to rebuild in the same place...wouldn't y'all eventually say "hey stop building in the path of the avalanche!?!?" just wondering ;-) -sean On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: Tough call any way you cut it...our city has sent nurses and emt help to Houston, utility trucks en route to San Antonio to stage for action, our emergency response center is ready for 1500 evacuees and more if necessary. We did same for Katrina evacuees...many actually stayed... hospitality, great food and affordable housing, and again , great food. Jaime Solorza On Aug 28, 2017 1:05 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> wrote: would you rather have 6.5 million people on the interstates when they flooded? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Heskett To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems that the Huston evacuation plan for the storm (or really any natural disaster) was to not evacuate because they can't move 6.5million people out of the city in time for the storm so everyone was supposed to evacuate "in place"...so now the plan is to go rescue everyone who stayed in place because it's all flooded. I know Texans have their own sort of reasoning and thinking but this seems really flawed IMHO. am i missing something or do I have my facts wrong?!?! -Sean On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> wrote: No political action better than reaction other than over reaction. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000 members... Jaime Solorza On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote: The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac Dearman. I tired to offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort Worth after that and it just turned into a bureaucratic nightmare and nothing ever got done. Nobody seemed to know who was in charge of communications. The shelters in some parts of Houston, as I understand it, are a moving target as well right now. My partner's son is currently in one, but it may soon be overtaken by water itself and they might have to evac the few hundred people there. It's a mess for sure. Someone might consider contacting either Samaritan's Purse or HEB here in TX as they have already mobilized huge convoys of trucks with everything from food and water to laundry trucks, to shower trucks, etc. I wonder if they have ever considered communications? It might be worth while to have them build a few comms trucks with hydraulic masts that could be quickly deployed and get bandwidth from a nearby wisp for just such events. It could be outfitted with a bunch of couches, usb charging ports, and few APs inside/outside to provide communications quickly outside of shelters. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: Was reading at&t is setting up temporary cell towers to bring up basic outward commimications and limited data. Its filtering out streaming and video. Of course when the politics takes things over, there will be people who try suing for it not being "open internet' On Aug 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote: I would imagine it would keep getting worse as they run out of fuel. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for posting these Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:19 AM Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report differing from Aug 26 to Aug 27 https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346369A1.pdf 9 radio stations out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 report) 6 more switching centers, 11 total out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 report) 320 total cell towers out of service (up from 315 on Aug 26 report) Will be interesting to see what the Aug 28 report shows, looks like they come out at 11:30 each morning https://www.fcc.gov/harvey On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jason Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: From NANOG last night..... Hurrican Harvey DIRS report 5 radio stations out of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and KAYK) 149,909 cable and wireline subscribers out of service (5 switching centers out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup power) 4% of cell sites out of service (Aransas, Reugio and San Patricio, TX have more than 50% of cell sites out of service) 9 PSAPs out of service or calls re-routed to another PSAP Aransas, TX is very rural, with only 19 cell sites, 18 out of service. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf On Aug 27, 2017 10:32 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain areas, with > 10 inches expected in the next few days. Rockport seems to be the hardest hit. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down in Hill Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San Antonio and especially Houston but haven't heard about Austin, Llano, Marble Falls, etc. I have some Cambium 180s spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay safe Jaime Solorza
