Kind of hard to move a city with 6.2 million people. But i say the same thing about new orleans, anybody who didnt bring in fill to get above the water should never get a dime
On Aug 28, 2017 7:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote: > just playing devil's advocate but...if i lived in the path of an avalanche > up here in the mountains and my house/neighborhood/city kept getting hit > every [N] winter(s) with an avalanche that crushed everything in it's path > and the rest of the country kept sending money for me/us to rebuild in the > same place...wouldn't y'all eventually say "hey stop building in the path > of the avalanche!?!?" > > just wondering ;-) > > -sean > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Tough call any way you cut it...our city has sent nurses and emt help to >> Houston, utility trucks en route to San Antonio to stage for action, our >> emergency response center is ready for 1500 evacuees and more if >> necessary. We did same for Katrina evacuees...many actually stayed... >> hospitality, great food and affordable housing, and again , great food. >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Aug 28, 2017 1:05 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> would you rather have 6.5 million people on the interstates when they >>> flooded? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Sean Heskett <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 1:33 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage >>> >>> maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems that the >>> Huston evacuation plan for the storm (or really any natural disaster) was >>> to not evacuate because they can't move 6.5million people out of the city >>> in time for the storm so everyone was supposed to evacuate "in place"...so >>> now the plan is to go rescue everyone who stayed in place because it's all >>> flooded. >>> >>> I know Texans have their own sort of reasoning and thinking but this >>> seems really flawed IMHO. >>> >>> am i missing something or do I have my facts wrong?!?! >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> No political action better than reaction other than over reaction. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jaime Solorza < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000 members... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac Dearman. I >>>>>> tired to offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort Worth after >>>>>> that and it just turned into a bureaucratic nightmare and nothing ever >>>>>> got >>>>>> done. Nobody seemed to know who was in charge of communications. The >>>>>> shelters in some parts of Houston, as I understand it, are a moving >>>>>> target >>>>>> as well right now. My partner's son is currently in one, but it may soon >>>>>> be >>>>>> overtaken by water itself and they might have to evac the few hundred >>>>>> people there. It's a mess for sure. Someone might consider contacting >>>>>> either Samaritan's Purse or HEB here in TX as they have already mobilized >>>>>> huge convoys of trucks with everything from food and water to laundry >>>>>> trucks, to shower trucks, etc. I wonder if they have ever considered >>>>>> communications? It might be worth while to have them build a few comms >>>>>> trucks with hydraulic masts that could be quickly deployed and get >>>>>> bandwidth from a nearby wisp for just such events. It could be outfitted >>>>>> with a bunch of couches, usb charging ports, and few APs inside/outside >>>>>> to >>>>>> provide communications quickly outside of shelters. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Steve Jones < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Was reading at&t is setting up temporary cell towers to bring up >>>>>>> basic outward commimications and limited data. Its filtering out >>>>>>> streaming >>>>>>> and video. Of course when the politics takes things over, there will be >>>>>>> people who try suing for it not being "open internet' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would imagine it would keep getting worse as they run out of fuel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM CBB - Jay Fuller < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for posting these >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:19 AM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Communications getting worse from FCC DIRS report differing from >>>>>>>>> Aug 26 to Aug 27 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf >>>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346369A1.pdf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 9 radio stations out of service (up from 5 on Aug 26 report) >>>>>>>>> 6 more switching centers, 11 total out of service (up from 5 on >>>>>>>>> Aug 26 report) >>>>>>>>> 320 total cell towers out of service (up from 315 on Aug 26 report) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will be interesting to see what the Aug 28 report shows, looks >>>>>>>>> like they come out at 11:30 each morning >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.fcc.gov/harvey >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jason Wilson < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From NANOG last night..... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hurrican Harvey DIRS report >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 5 radio stations out of service (WKNC, KKTX, KUNO, KKWV, and KAYK) >>>>>>>>>> 149,909 cable and wireline subscribers out of service (5 >>>>>>>>>> switching centers >>>>>>>>>> out of service, and 38 switching centers on backup power) >>>>>>>>>> 4% of cell sites out of service (Aransas, Reugio and San >>>>>>>>>> Patricio, TX have >>>>>>>>>> more than 50% of cell sites out of service) >>>>>>>>>> 9 PSAPs out of service or calls re-routed to another PSAP >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Aransas, TX is very rural, with only 19 cell sites, 18 out of >>>>>>>>>> service. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-346368A1.pdf >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2017 10:32 AM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I saw reports this morning of 22+ inches of rain in certain >>>>>>>>>>> areas, with > 10 inches expected in the next few days. Rockport >>>>>>>>>>> seems to be >>>>>>>>>>> the hardest hit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys , anyone getting hammered with rain and winds down in >>>>>>>>>>>> Hill Country areas? Tushar, Alan? Some flooding in San Antonio and >>>>>>>>>>>> especially Houston but haven't heard about Austin, Llano, Marble >>>>>>>>>>>> Falls, >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. I have some Cambium 180s spares and one Epmp1000 .. stay safe >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
