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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:25:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT 


Reviving a dead one, cause i can. 
So serverplus, no matter how many times you ask them to stop, still asks 
customers for the mac off their router, even though 95 percent of the routers 
on the market list the freaking wireless mac. They cant seem to follow simple 
poe instructions, constantly escalating (and billing) when they hook poes up 
backward. 


If you have another option, look into it. Because right now, ill get a follow 
up, solely because of this post, as i did from the original post im replying 
to. 




I dont mind our own mopes being mopes. I dont even ming paid mopes being mopes. 
What i dont like is mopes, billing us for mopery, and escalating response to 
being mopes when called out in public only. Promising to deescalate the mopery, 
and continuing to be mopes and billing for mopery. 


At this point, direct dialing saudi arabia is a better option. At least when 
amrut answers the phone, our customers expectations drop to the level of 
outsource. And amrut will actually be consistent. 


On Jul 12, 2017 7:10 AM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 



I'm not Direct TV and don't want to be compared to them. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Jul 11, 2017 10:43 PM, "Darin Steffl" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I am happy what we pay with the average hold times averaging 1-2 minutes. Our 
residential subs don't need hold times any shorter than that for after hours 
support. Compared to our other WISP's, we're the only one that offers 24/7 
support anyway so we're already ahead of the competition there. 


I know when I call DirecTV or Verizon, Centurylink, I almost always wait at 
least 3-5 minutes before I get a rep. Not always but usually. 


On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
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I would pay 30% more from my current rates to reduce it to sub 30 seconds. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Jul 11, 2017 6:36 PM, "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I am in the camp of “screw em”, let them hold or else they can call us in the 
morning. 

I would probably feel different if you were the first point of contact for all 
calls. 

But we take our calls directly during most waking & working hours. 




From: Layne Sisk 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:30 PM 

To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT 




So Steve, I am not sure I fully understand the questions you are posing here, 
but I believe it is a simple integration issue that we can resolve easily. 
Since you have been live with us less than 2 weeks I am sure it is simply a 
setting that can be adjusted. I will email you off-list so we can set up a call 
to address the concerns. 

To address the comments mentioned by some others in the thread: 


    1. We do not route calls overseas unless it has been authorized by the ISP. 
The exception mentioned on the list here is that if and ISP has a complete 
outage and has 50-100 calls drop into queue before the outage is identified we 
may use the overseas agents to simply pick up the call and confirm to the 
customer there is an outage. Once the outage is identified we put a message up 
on the phone system to stop the influx of calls. Jeremy if that was a deal 
breaker for you we would certainly have looked for an alternative, sorry that 
created a problem. For us it is a balance to make sure that one ISPs outage 
does not create long hold times for all other clients. 



    1. Our average hold time is typically between 1 and 2 minutes. For example 
today it is 1:33. Month to date it is approx. 1:28. It is certainly possible to 
shorten that time, but not while maintaining our standard pricing structure. It 
is a balance between cost and service, much in the same way that a WISP can 
usually provide more bandwidth but the balance between cost and speed has to be 
considered. 



    1. We definitely do not have a mandatory hold time, only an average which 
we are always working to decrease, most customers calls are answered within 
seconds. 


I would pose a question to the group, would you be willing to pay say 30% more 
for the service, if the hold times dropped by 30 seconds? Most people I have 
spoken with have said no, but it was admittedly a small sample size. We have 
considered a scaled pricing model with a hold time SLA of < 3 min, < 2 min, < 1 
min. What are your thoughts? 

Layne Sisk 
ServerPlus 
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From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:49 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT 


I also meant offlist, not OT 



On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the email ticket formatting is night and day 
awful, why bother with an api if you cant actually tell what the heck is 
happening. ... and the api generated ticket cant be reassigned for the 
customer, though i believe thats a powercode issue... and given the "new" 
powercode, i dont see that getting fixed....simon... simon, where are you? 



On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Im not sure how they pay, but it looks alot like when we used to comission new 
sales, a new account for each call based on who answered the phone.... if thats 
tje case, comission calls, then why bother 



Ive seen multiple existing tickets restarted... bad juju on that. 





Anybody know if they actually look at existing tickets? 



Closing and resolving unresolved issues is bad business for me too. 





Im thinking its just a matter of getiing on the same page, but if others have 
had similar issues and found workarounds ... or walked away, please let me 
know. 



Serverplus was not my first choice for an outsourced it, so i may be jaded. 




On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Not impressed, a short time in, by any means. Serverplus guys, no offense, i 
need info to make this work outside a retention response. I know luthman uses 
them, but anyone else with powercode, please OT me so i can find out whats 
broke on our side before i have the boss talk. 


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Darin Steffl 
Minnesota WiFi 
www.mnwifi.com 
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