If they don’t know BIAS is not really in play then once you get the permit you
are golden.
Cell phone providers are not CLECs and they get in all the same ROWs as the
CLECS and ILECS.
I have never ever had a permitting agency ask me how I had the right to ask for
access.
Moreover, crossing federal public lands, they cannot even charge you rent.
That is by act of congress. And that applies to every person on this list.
They just want drawings and money.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 12:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
Which is a point I've already made.
If you can get access without any particular designation, but by just asking,
great.
If above fails, get your CLEC and do it again, only now they have to let you
in unless there's a documented reason why not (not enough room, etc.).
Don't depend on BIAS which is rather volatile.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 12:57:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
No, I don’t have a CLEC for the non reg stuff.
You always have to get permission from the property owner, it may be a public
street but the city still has to grant an excavation or together permit.
Many times there is a public utility easement around private property that you
can occupy.
The FCC made all BIAS providers public utilities in spirit. While that
particular document may no longer be in effect, you can still point to the
language and use it. If you get the permit you are golden. None of this
requires a CLEC.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a CLEC I *MAY*
place it there... if whomever owns that easement or property allows me to.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:03:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
If you do not have an easement, you do not have the right to keep your cable
there. Most easements I get are free.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
Sure, easements are insurance, but not always cheap.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:54:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
CLEC is no insurance.
ROW-Easement is insurance.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
A couple thousand dollars for an attorney to make you a CLEC is pretty cheap
insurance when doling out fiber.
The major impediment to more providers and more expansion of existing providers
is that the bits moved typically aren't significantly different. As long as
most things generally work, people aren't going to leave. If Netflix buffers
constantly, your marketing becomes a lot easier, "Our Netflix actually works."
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:46:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
We did at our fiber company.
I don't remember the exact percentage, but I do remember it being above 60% of
people only have access to a single provider.
If you remove the ROW access for BIAS providers, lower "broadband" to 10M, and
allow providers to throttle other content, the odds are so overwhelmingly
stacked against new regional ISPs, existing providers who just haven't expanded
yet, and the general population of this country... And solely provides more
welfare to expand the existing cable and Telco monopolies.
On Sep 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
You're wrong. :-p
Did anyone actually utilize that ROW access under NN and not something else
like being a CLEC? Spend a couple thousand bucks and you're a CLEC, if you need
to be in your jurisdiction for ROW access. Around here you can just apply and
get the ROW access you desire.
They weren't directly throttled, but yes, ran through congested peering and
transit. So what if they do? Business choice. That gives you or me the
opportunity to come through with Netflix that doesn't suck and steal the
customer.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the only thing keep providers from
throttling down third party eyeball content to prioritize their own.
Also, that ROW access many of us enjoyed as BIAS providers was tied to that
as well.
My memory is fuzzy though.
On Sep 28, 2017 7:23 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
The only way forward is to repeal Net Neutrality.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:30:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?
There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not.
Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked.
On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-net-neutrality-isp
I pretty much had to quit reading when this idiot sated what the FCCs job
is
