IPTV delivery over fixed antenna cellular. On Sep 29, 2017 10:34 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> For what? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, September 29, 2017 10:33:10 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? > > They have been working on the fixed CPEs and set top boxes for this for > YEARS. > > On Sep 29, 2017 10:30 AM, "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net> > wrote: > >> Not to mention the PR nightmare if anyone found out they were doing that. >> >> -- >> Christopher Tyler >> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE >> Total Highspeed Internet Services >> 417.851.1107 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:22:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> >> Well, if that's what they want to do... all I can say is, good luck with >> that! >> I realize AT&T the only option in a lot of areas, but anywhere that they >> have any real competition (whether that be cable, local fiber providers or >> even WISPs), I can't see how that wouldn't cost them a lot of business. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >> wrote: >> >> > Of course they want to slow “rivals content” they own DirectTV J lol. >> No >> > more dish, cbs all access or Netflix on ATT circuits J >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant * >> > >> > MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant >> > <http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5> – >> > MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE >> > >> > >> > >> > For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net >> > >> > Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com >> > >> > Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270> >> > >> > E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds >> > *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2017 7:37 AM >> > >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > >> > >> > Oh look... >> > >> > >> > >> > AT&T Inc. and other broadband providers asked the U.S. Supreme Court to >> > overturn the Obama-era "net neutrality" rule barring internet service >> > providers from slowing or blocking rivals’ content. >> > >> > The appeals, filed Thursday, will put new pressure on a rule enacted in >> > 2015 when the Federal Communications Commission was under Democratic >> > control. Filing a separate appeal from AT&T were the United States >> Telecom >> > Association, a trade group, and broadband service provider CenturyLink >> Inc. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > Ignoring the bias in the reporting (Bloomberg), it's interesting that >> the >> > challenge is coming from Telecom. I wonder how much pressure they >> actually >> > feel from regional fiber companies and WISPs since they(telco) no longer >> > have as much of a protected status as they used to. Landline has largely >> > gone the way of the dino, the ROW was opened, discussions of rural >> > broadband experiments and funds for non-telco have been brought up, and >> the >> > FCC has increasingly had contact from WISPA. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 28, 2017 9:43 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> > >> > Which is a point I've already made. >> > >> > If you can get access without any particular designation, but by just >> > asking, great. >> > If above fails, get your CLEC and do it again, only now they have to >> let >> > you in unless there's a documented reason why not (not enough room, >> etc.). >> > Don't depend on BIAS which is rather volatile. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:22:48 PM >> > >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > If they don’t know BIAS is not really in play then once you get the >> permit >> > you are golden. >> > >> > Cell phone providers are not CLECs and they get in all the same ROWs as >> > the CLECS and ILECS. >> > >> > >> > >> > I have never ever had a permitting agency ask me how I had the right to >> > ask for access. >> > >> > >> > >> > Moreover, crossing federal public lands, they cannot even charge you >> > rent. That is by act of congress. And that applies to every person on >> > this list. >> > >> > >> > >> > They just want drawings and money. >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Mike Hammett >> > >> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 12:16 PM >> > >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > >> > >> > Which is a point I've already made. >> > >> > If you can get access without any particular designation, but by just >> > asking, great. >> > If above fails, get your CLEC and do it again, only now they have to >> let >> > you in unless there's a documented reason why not (not enough room, >> etc.). >> > Don't depend on BIAS which is rather volatile. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 12:57:41 PM >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > No, I don’t have a CLEC for the non reg stuff. >> > >> > >> > >> > You always have to get permission from the property owner, it may be a >> > public street but the city still has to grant an excavation or together >> > permit. >> > >> > >> > >> > Many times there is a public utility easement around private property >> that >> > you can occupy. >> > >> > >> > >> > The FCC made all BIAS providers public utilities in spirit. While that >> > particular document may no longer be in effect, you can still point to >> the >> > language and use it. If you get the permit you are golden. None of >> this >> > requires a CLEC. >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Mike Hammett >> > >> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:04 AM >> > >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > >> > >> > But if you have a CLEC you *CAN* place it there. If I don't have a CLEC >> I >> > *MAY* place it there... if whomever owns that easement or property >> allows >> > me to. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:03:01 AM >> > >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > If you do not have an easement, you do not have the right to keep your >> > cable there. Most easements I get are free. >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Mike Hammett >> > >> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:02 AM >> > >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > >> > >> > Sure, easements are insurance, but not always cheap. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:54:56 AM >> > >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > CLEC is no insurance. >> > >> > ROW-Easement is insurance. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Mike Hammett >> > >> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:50 AM >> > >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> > >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > >> > >> > A couple thousand dollars for an attorney to make you a CLEC is pretty >> > cheap insurance when doling out fiber. >> > >> > The major impediment to more providers and more expansion of existing >> > providers is that the bits moved typically aren't significantly >> different. >> > As long as most things generally work, people aren't going to leave. If >> > Netflix buffers constantly, your marketing becomes a lot easier, "Our >> > Netflix actually works." >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > >> > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:46:43 AM >> > >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > We did at our fiber company. >> > >> > >> > >> > I don't remember the exact percentage, but I do remember it being above >> > 60% of people only have access to a single provider. >> > >> > >> > >> > If you remove the ROW access for BIAS providers, lower "broadband" to >> 10M, >> > and allow providers to throttle other content, the odds are so >> > overwhelmingly stacked against new regional ISPs, existing providers who >> > just haven't expanded yet, and the general population of this country... >> > And solely provides more welfare to expand the existing cable and Telco >> > monopolies. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> > >> > You're wrong. :-p >> > >> > Did anyone actually utilize that ROW access under NN and not something >> > else like being a CLEC? Spend a couple thousand bucks and you're a >> CLEC, if >> > you need to be in your jurisdiction for ROW access. Around here you can >> > just apply and get the ROW access you desire. >> > >> > They weren't directly throttled, but yes, ran through congested peering >> > and transit. So what if they do? Business choice. That gives you or me >> the >> > opportunity to come through with Netflix that doesn't suck and steal the >> > customer. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > >> > *Sent: *Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:33:20 AM >> > >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > If I'm wrong, say so, but NN seems to be the only thing keep providers >> > from throttling down third party eyeball content to prioritize their >> own. >> > >> > >> > >> > Also, that ROW access many of us enjoyed as BIAS providers was tied to >> > that as well. >> > >> > >> > >> > My memory is fuzzy though. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 28, 2017 7:23 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> > >> > The only way forward is to repeal Net Neutrality. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> > >> > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> > *To: *af@afmug.com >> > *Sent: *Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:30:44 PM >> > >> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth? >> > >> > There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. >> > >> > >> > >> > Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc- >> > net-neutrality-isp >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I pretty much had to quit reading when this idiot sated what the FCCs >> job >> > is >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >
