I appreciate all the intel.  Thanks everyone.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 10/19/2017 6:38:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq

Let me back up.

We lose our IN link every time a bird pees. It generally holds up during torrential down pours.

Random fog events will cause it to become trashed.

The link is .6 miles. I expected it to fade from time to time. The problem for me is the fail over does not happen properly.

It's a gosh darn USB dongle attached to a reflector dish. Don't expect too much out of it.

On Oct 19, 2017, at 18:28, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote:

How far is your shot?  What channel are you using?



Rory



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:26 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



I disagree. We lose our IN link every time it rains. And the 5GHz does not fail over seemleasly at all.



There is packet loss and high pings until the 60GHz finally dies. Then it sometimes flips.


On Oct 19, 2017, at 17:56, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

If a bunch of folks deploy it and do so correctly, there won't be complaining. ;-)



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From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:55:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq

I ain’t belivin nuthing until a bunch of folks have deployed this stuff and start complaining about it. Then we will have believable data.



From: Mike Hammett

Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:32 PM

To:[email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet70/oet70a.pdf

page 7 vs. page 15



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From: "Chris Wright" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:28:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq

Between 50-80GHz, oxygen attenuates the EM spectrum significantly more than water. Not to say that it doesn’t contribute at all to fade, but at 300 meters you’d probably only ever go down if Poseiden himself took offense to your client.



http://windowsil.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/atm_absorption.gif



Chris Wright

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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:19 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



This link would be just under 300 meters. Will I ever go down for rain?





------ Original Message ------

From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>

To: [email protected]

Sent: 10/19/2017 4:17:00 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



Yes, it's still an issue. To say otherwise is dumb.



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From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:16:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq

Is rain fade an issue?



I just read an article claiming that the atmospheric attenuation at 60ghz is so great that at any range where 60ghz will operate the rain fade is insignificant.





------ Original Message ------

From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected]>

To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

Sent: 10/19/2017 2:58:56 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



Yes, and the LR brackets. They should just drop the regular bracket and make everyone order the decent ones.



On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it?





------ Original Message ------

From: "Chris Wright" <[email protected]>

To: [email protected]

Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope.



Chris Wright

Network Administrator



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM
To:[email protected]
Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq



I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option.



Have any of you tried IgniteNet?  Has it been reliable for you?



I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up.










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