filter by reply destination address and then by tcp state established is
what i did

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I took him to mean subscribers when he said 8000 connections.
> As far as Layer4 connections we're performing NAT for, I'm not totally
> sure how to tell.
> If I torch the LTE PDN interface, it counts up for awhile and then freezes.
> Connection tracking is showing something like 120,000 items but that isn't
> strictly stuff we're NAT'ing.  Some traffic just passes through.
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 1/15/2018 2:21:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>
> srcnat is what we use. 1800 connections right now from one section of the
> network
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> What flavor of NAT does mikrotik implement?
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:07 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>
>> Wonder how heavy we can load that... I would want it to be able to handle
>> 8000 connections.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:05 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>
>> ccr1072
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What are you using?  Router NAT or a server or ?
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>>
>>> Im not going to lie, we are natting at 1:300 across a handful of publics
>>> and have little to no issue, though we really should since the customer
>>> router double NATs
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is
>>>> needed to make it work properly.
>>>>
>>>> We currently have about 3 /21s I think.  Don’t want to have to buy a
>>>> fourth.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Dennis Burgess
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik can do that, I have a router with 20k NAT rules natting two
>>>> /21s to less than 254 ips .:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:28 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dual-stack and CGN? You can get 8:1, 16:1 or even 32:1 out of a single
>>>> public IPv4 address. Give 8 customers 8k ports each, or 16 customer 4k
>>>> ports each, 32 customers 2k ports each. That's *source* ports, so they're
>>>> not limited to 8k, 4k or 2k connections total. You have to look at in both
>>>> directions. 10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.8.8:53 and 10.10.10.10:1024 ->
>>>> 8.8.4.4:53 mappings are both valid, and it obviously goes a lot deeper
>>>> than that.
>>>>
>>>> Seems to be a whole lot easier than some crazy NAT appliance that's
>>>> running the whole network. I haven't done anything like this, but I'm
>>>> considering it. I think Juniper even lets you do this with a couple
>>>> commands? Yeah, I'm too cheap for that.
>>>>
>>>> Something else to keep in mind is that most consumer grade routers
>>>> still have a fairly limited connection table. My Cambium cnPilot router I
>>>> have at home lets you adjust the max table size (up to 8192). Most are 2k
>>>> or 4k. While even a low-end MikroTik will give you >100k.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/15/2018 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Planning to buy another /21 or some such thing .... again ......
>>>>
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> So going to attempt to NAT the whole frigging company.
>>>>
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Seems like I am going in reverse here.
>>>>
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> If we can make NAT work for most customers, then that will buy us time
>>>> to build our magic V4 translator gateway box for a V6 only network.�
>>>>
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on the best way to do this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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