You can't get x86 Miktorik boxes that are will handle more. I think
Linktechs and Balticnetworks both sell some decent ones (not built by
Mikrotik, but they use hardware that's well tested with routerOS).

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Does MT have something larger?
>
> I would need two for redundancy.  I presume use policy based routing
> sending all the 10.x.x.x source IP traffic to one of the two NAT boxes that
> will be set up for load sharing.  Core would send everything else to the
> edge.
>
> Details details, I let the router experts sweat that stuff.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>
> the 1072 has 72 cores.  We have a 1036 (36 core) doing NAT for over a
> thousand LTE+Wimax customers.  CPU usage is like 30%. The "firewall" and
> "networking" processes account for most of the usage.
>
> We could extrapolate that to say a 1072 could maybe 4,000 with 60% CPU
> usage.....just a guess obviously.  There's nothing to say it would scale
> linearly.
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 1/15/2018 2:07:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>
>
> Wonder how heavy we can load that... I would want it to be able to handle
> 8000 connections.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>
> ccr1072
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> What are you using?  Router NAT or a server or ?
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>
>> Im not going to lie, we are natting at 1:300 across a handful of publics
>> and have little to no issue, though we really should since the customer
>> router double NATs
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is
>>> needed to make it work properly.
>>>
>>> We currently have about 3 /21s I think.  Don’t want to have to buy a
>>> fourth.
>>>
>>> *From:* Dennis Burgess
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>>
>>>
>>> Mikrotik can do that, I have a router with 20k NAT rules natting two
>>> /21s to less than 254 ips .:)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:28 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dual-stack and CGN? You can get 8:1, 16:1 or even 32:1 out of a single
>>> public IPv4 address. Give 8 customers 8k ports each, or 16 customer 4k
>>> ports each, 32 customers 2k ports each. That's *source* ports, so they're
>>> not limited to 8k, 4k or 2k connections total. You have to look at in both
>>> directions. 10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.8.8:53 and 10.10.10.10:1024 ->
>>> 8.8.4.4:53 mappings are both valid, and it obviously goes a lot deeper
>>> than that.
>>>
>>> Seems to be a whole lot easier than some crazy NAT appliance that's
>>> running the whole network. I haven't done anything like this, but I'm
>>> considering it. I think Juniper even lets you do this with a couple
>>> commands? Yeah, I'm too cheap for that.
>>>
>>> Something else to keep in mind is that most consumer grade routers still
>>> have a fairly limited connection table. My Cambium cnPilot router I have at
>>> home lets you adjust the max table size (up to 8192). Most are 2k or 4k.
>>> While even a low-end MikroTik will give you >100k.
>>>
>>> On 1/15/2018 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Planning to buy another /21 or some such thing .... again ......
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> So going to attempt to NAT the whole frigging company.
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> Seems like I am going in reverse here.
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> If we can make NAT work for most customers, then that will buy us time
>>> to build our magic V4 translator gateway box for a V6 only network.�
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on the best way to do this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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