Not unless it's also doing uPNP somehow. 



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From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:45:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again 


does CG-NAT work with the Xbox people? 


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: 






I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is needed 
to make it work properly. 

We currently have about 3 /21s I think. Don’t want to have to buy a fourth. 




From: Dennis Burgess 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM 


To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again 





Mikrotik can do that, I have a router with 20k NAT rules natting two /21s to 
less than 254 ips .:) 



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From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:28 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again 

Dual-stack and CGN? You can get 8:1, 16:1 or even 32:1 out of a single public 
IPv4 address. Give 8 customers 8k ports each, or 16 customer 4k ports each, 32 
customers 2k ports each. That's *source* ports, so they're not limited to 8k, 
4k or 2k connections total. You have to look at in both directions. 
10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.8.8:53 and 10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.4.4:53 mappings are 
both valid, and it obviously goes a lot deeper than that. 

Seems to be a whole lot easier than some crazy NAT appliance that's running the 
whole network. I haven't done anything like this, but I'm considering it. I 
think Juniper even lets you do this with a couple commands? Yeah, I'm too cheap 
for that. 

Something else to keep in mind is that most consumer grade routers still have a 
fairly limited connection table. My Cambium cnPilot router I have at home lets 
you adjust the max table size (up to 8192). Most are 2k or 4k. While even a 
low-end MikroTik will give you >100k. 

On 1/15/2018 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 
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Planning to buy another /21 or some such thing .... again ...... 

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So going to attempt to NAT the whole frigging company. 

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Seems like I am going in reverse here. 

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If we can make NAT work for most customers, then that will buy us time to build 
our magic V4 translator gateway box for a V6 only network.� 

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Any suggestions on the best way to do this? 



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