We could take turns on the boring machine and play a game of utility shootout. Third place is a water line, second place is communications and first place is a gas line. Kind of like darts but with the possibility of explosions.

Steve Jones wrote:
Not that id show up, or ever did, but it seems the history of animal farm allowed alot of people to get their tip wet in the industry. The industry has changed, fiber is the new canopy. Why dont you guys turn this thing fiber centric? Animal farm 2.0 or 3.14 because only geeks go to stuff like that. Have a glass bakeoff. Enough of you are EE eggheads enough to build out an overpowered fiber laser array to poke fibers into a hog and green light roast it from the inside.
Just sayin, thats what id like to see pictures from


On Feb 16, 2018 4:55 PM, "David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:

    We’d be interested in that as well.

    David Coudron

    *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dave
    *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 3:51 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

    Sign me up im in for full effect I havent been on a tank since '93

    On 02/16/2018 02:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    wrote:

        With smoked dead animals and the chance to play on some
        construction machinery.

        *From:*CBB - Jay Fuller

        *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:21 PM

        *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

        sounds similar to a two-day CEO roundtable....i like....i like....

            ----- Original Message -----

            *From:*SmarterBroadband

            *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

            *Sent:*Friday, February 16, 2018 1:09 PM

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

            I will be there (as long as dates are free)…..

            Adam

            *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
            *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:01 AM
            *To:* af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

            I am not sure we will have large crowds as in the past to
            justify the fairpark venue.

            I am thinking that original hotel conference room where we
            held the first one.

            I have modified the afmug.com <http://afmug.com> page a
            bit reflecting that something is going to happen.

            All but the home page.

            I cannot find that in the wordpress back end.

            *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account)

            *Sent:*Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:52 PM

            *To:*af

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

            I've for a while thinking than an 'unconference' or 'open
            space conference' or 'barcamp' would be interesting.  The
            WISPA conferences aren't really set up well to handle this
            type of thing.

            Ideally you'd end up in a space with a 'common area' and
            then breakout rooms/areas.   The first 20 minutes are
            people standing up and suggesting topics to discuss, and
            putting those topics on an agenda board claming a space
            and a time. For smaller groups, a single room works where
            you claim time on the agenda.   For larger groups, you of
            course need more space since there tends to be more things
people want to discuss than there is time on the agenda. In the latter case, the person suggesting the topic ends
            up leading it in the space they've claimed in the timeslot
            assigned.

            I sure wouldn't mind showing up at a hotel room somewhere
            in Utah for something like this....  I also wouldn't mind
            taking the leadership role during the initial 20 minutes
            to facilitate the topic 'selection' process (which if done
            correctly isn't really as much a selection process as a
            self-organizing process).

            On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com
            <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> wrote:

                Chuck,

                I like the idea of bringing it back to the roots, no
                real firm plan, just play around with some stuff?

                TJ

                On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown
                <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                    Red Iguana

                    We could do it kinda like it started.

                    Pick a date next winter, I will reserve a hotel
                    conference room and whoever shows up shows up.

                    Not sure what Wispa would think about that...

                    *From:*Cameron Crum

                    *Sent:*Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:57 PM

                    *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

                    I vote to move AF back to Salt Lake. It was a good
                    excuse to get some powder days in...oh, and the
                    conference was good too.

                    On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Mike Hammett
                    <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

                        and three NANOGs, one GPF, one PTC, etc.



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                        *From: *"Jay Weekley"
                        <par...@cyberbroadband.net
                        <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
                        *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                        *Sent: *Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:00:16 PM
                        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

                        I admit I had a bit of conference fatigue with
                        Animal Farm, two WISPA
                        shows and a FISPA conference all in the same year.

                        Chuck McCown wrote:
                        > It can be done.  We outsourced much of it
                        once we got the process
                        > down. But WispAmerica has been pretty good
                        to me and I think they
                        > think that AF as its own show may cut
                        attendance to WispAmerica.
                        > Two shows, same season, one much cheaper
                        than the other...
                        > So yeah, WispAmerica has an AnimalFarm
                        track.  Same format as before.
                        > Manufacturers send engineers and we discuss
                        technical stuff.  And I
                        > don’t have to do much other than MC the event.
                        > *From:* TJ Trout
                        > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:27 PM
                        > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                        > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
                        > Chuck,
                        > How feasible would it be to bring AF back to
                        Utah and outsource the
                        > unpalatable parts of planning?
                        > Obviously the cost would go up per person?
                        Once you broke it off into
                        > wispa I haven't attended since...
                        > Maybe I should give it a shot, you will be
                        having a AF group @
                        > wispamerica in 20 days?
                        > TJ
                        > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
                        > <fai...@snappytelecom.net
                        <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
                        >
                        > >>My surge protectors are known to have an
                        enhancement effect...
                        >     Thus the need for a fuse !
                        >     :)
                        > Faisal Imtiaz
                        > Snappy Internet & Telecom
                        > http://www.snappytelecom.net
                        >
                        >     Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
                        <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
                        <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
                        >
                        > Help-desk: (305)663-5518
                        <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
                        <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518> Option 2 or
                        > Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
                        <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
                        >
                        
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                        >
                        > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
                        <mailto:*ch...@wbmfg.com>
                        > *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:*af@afmug.com>
                        > *Sent: *Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:31:55 PM
                        > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
                        >
                        > My surge protectors are known to have an
                        enhancement effect...
                        > *From:* Adam Moffett
                        > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:13 PM
                        > *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                        > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck


                        > That's hitting the nail on the head.  I
                        don't want penis
                        > enlargement spam, but I definitely want to
                        hear about surge
                        > protectors and power systems and network
                        equipment.
                        > Spam me Chuck.  Spam me like one of your
                        French girls.
                        > ------ Original Message ------
                        > From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
                        <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>
                        > To: "af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
                        > Sent: 2/13/2018 3:57:19 PM
                        > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
                        >
                        >             Ha... I never even realized that those 
weren't going to
                        >             the list anymore... for some reason gmail 
puts it in my
                        >             afmug folder.
                        >
                        >             The only thing that's slightly annoying 
is that I get them
                        >             more than once because my other email 
address is on
                        >             Chuck's list too, but I don't care enough 
to bother
                        >             unsubscribing... I actually like getting 
spam about stuff
                        >             that I'm interested in.
                        >             On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Chuck 
McCown
                        >             <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
                        >
                        >                 Doing it this way, someone can simply 
unsubscribe from
                        >                 the spam but not the list.  And Mail 
Chimp will never
                        >                 ever ever ever let me send that 
person anything again
                        >                 for all of eternity.  They rate the 
quality of lists
                        >                 for how many bounces, unsubscribes 
etc.  I have a
                        >                 pretty good rating with them.
                        >
                        >                 The alternative is going back to the 
Friday spam and
                        >                 swap fest.
                        >
                        >                 BTW, my distributors have spam rights 
too.  But only
                        >                 on Friday morning.
                        >
                        >                 I prefer the list to be free from 
spam like it is now
                        >                 compared to before.
                        >
                        >                 -----Original Message----- From: 
Robert Andrews
                        >                 Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 
12:14 PM
                        >                 To:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
                        >                 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
                        >
                        >
                        >                 I hope that was someone being 
humorous... Otherwise...
                        >                 #OFFWITHTHEIRHEAD ...   Come on, 
Chuck's products are
                        >                 about the most
                        >                 worthy of any vendor I know.   And 
POE fuses...It's
                        >                 a fricken godsend!!!
                        >
                        >                 BTW I need to by a bunch and wish I 
could buy the
                        >                 little racks with
                        >                 them..   Oh well, amazon...
                        >
                        >
                        >                 Robert
                        >
                        >                 On 02/13/2018 11:05 AM,ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
                        >
                        >                     I merge my AnimalFarm email list 
with my MailChimp
                        >                     list about once a year.
                        >
                        >                     You do realize that this list is 
my list, right?
                        >
                        >                     So essentially every time I make 
a posting here I
                        >                     am spamming you, right?
                        >
                        >                     I used to do it every Friday 
right here on this list.
                        >                     But I think it is cleaner and 
better quality to
                        >                     use MailChimp.
                        >
                        >                     Did you unsubscribe from the Mail 
Chimp?  That
                        >                     will prevent it from ever 
happening again.
                        >
                        >                     -----Original Message----- 
From:fiber...@mail.com <mailto:fiber...@mail.com>
                        >                     Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 
11:58 AM
                        >                     To:af@afmug.com 
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
                        >                     Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
                        >
                        >                     I just got spammed by Chuck 
McCown. What's up with
                        >                     that?
                        >
                        >                     I sure as hell haven't signed up 
for any of his
                        >                     email lists nor done any business 
with him, or
                        >                     even indicate I would like to. I 
find it in
                        >                     extremely poor taste to mine the 
Af list for spam
                        >                     targets.
                        >
                        >                     Jared
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >

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