Yeah... I've been telling our techs that for years... I think I finally got
them mostly using mastic, but I'd be surprised if there isn't still a lot
of silicone being used in our network.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree on the Mastic being superior on roofs under antenna feet.  Mastic
> under vinyl tape is also very reliable.
> Have never seen that big stretch product.  Sounds ideal for wall
> penetrations.  But can you chew it?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 9:51 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] grr - installing
>
> Mastic or big stretch. silicone is garbage, you cant pull it an put
> anything else in its place, once it sets it doesnt change, it rots houses.
> Use mastic, stays workable, sticks to most everything, you can reuse it, I
> hate silicone. its banned in my house too.
> If mastic doesnt fit the bill, big stretch  or a butyl caulk is the only
> way to go. But mastic almost always fits the bill. real mastic, not that
> garbage Sticky Tape brand chewing gum either
>
> If you have a lag pull for whatever reason and you have a mount rocking
> mastick moves with it, maintaining the seal. set silicone will open up or
> pull out and let the water leak in
>
> http://www.sashco.com/products/big-stretch/ if you do roof repairs, have
> this in your kit btw. This is great for cold repairs, it adheres to the
> shingles wet or cold
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Brian Sullivan <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> How do you seal penetrations?
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2018 10:28 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> caulk, the devils chowder
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> silicone grease or caulk?
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] grr - installing
>>>
>>> yep, the force 200 was mounted to one of those little light aluminum j
>>> arms for the fsk, and the force 190 they overtightened the hose clamp and
>>> it failed. Im coming across flapping cable, cable down inside the gutters,
>>> cable laid across the dirt. DS mounts that arent plumb, its irritating. And
>>> there is silicone on my F&@&ing network again, I banned that stuff
>>> years ago
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One looks to be a Force 200, and the other a Force 190.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are those the Force 200 ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had some real winners on our team. I feel your pain.
>>>>> We now have a 2week boot camp all new hires go thru before sending
>>>>> them out on their own adventures :)
>>>>> I use the Left seat right seat method with a senior tech.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/08/2018 09:37 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you just love it when people do three times as much work to do
>>>>> something wrong, which then falls apart a month later, as it would've 
>>>>> taken
>>>>> to just do it right?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> im filling in for installer, todays masterpieces i have come across
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Ds with the self tappers in it amazes, me, they actually took the
>>>>>> mount out of plumb and fastened it crooked
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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