I wish we would treat drugs here like they do in Spain and Portugal, but
how would our for-profit prison system, police and federal law enforcement
get money?

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:42 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thats heroin that permantly alters the opoid receptors in the brain, the
> molecule is slightly larger than the normal brain chemical (dopamine i
> think) its replacing, so the receptor is enlarged. Its actually that first
> use that is why doing heroin is called chasing the dragon, people are
> seeking to replicate that first high but never can because the physiologic
> change only happens once so its like chasing a dragon
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:18 PM Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's Fake News.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 2:21 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, permanently
>>> alters the brain chemistry.  So it's not a 'recreational' drug, and why
>>> it's so addictive.
>>>
>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>> > Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me.  I like
>>> > those too much.
>>> >
>>> > Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> >> If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they are
>>> >> dissolved in hot water...
>>> >> Not really clear what they mean by bath salts.
>>> >>
>>> >> I was prescribed Xanax once.  Made me sleepy.
>>> >> Pot was not my thing back in the 70s...
>>> >> (I preferred Olympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken, Henry
>>> >> Winehards Private Reserve...)
>>> >>
>>> >> Not really sure what meth does to you but I know it is horribly
>>> >> addictive and ruins everyone that gets hooked.
>>> >> I guess it is a version of speed.  But no direct experience with that
>>> >> either.  Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race.
>>> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me.
>>> >>
>>> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries
>>> >> (decompression of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into her
>>> >> vertebrae).
>>> >> But she didn't get hooked.  Claimed it worked really well.
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:08 PM
>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
>>> >>
>>> >> I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like
>>> fun
>>> >> and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows.  Granted, all I know
>>> about
>>> >> bath salts are the videos I've come across.
>>> >>
>>> >> Steve Jones wrote:
>>> >>> They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16
>>> >>> doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts.
>>> >>> other misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of meth
>>> >>> charges.
>>> >>> fucking bath salts
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave <[email protected]
>>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     I hear the same shit as lewis and the sheriff mentioned that
>>> Every
>>> >>>     vehicle that is pulled over has some form of drug or
>>> paraphernalia
>>> >>>     in it.
>>> >>>     Meth is the demon drug that will cause even the most humble
>>> become
>>> >>>     demented.
>>> >>>     A peer of my rank in the army said "That some were just not meant
>>> >>>     to breed!" We laughed about it but I do believe there is some
>>> >>>     truth to that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     On 04/15/2018 05:11 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>> >>>>     I think Meth answers all your "why" questions. Since I deal with
>>> >>>>     almost every sheriff in and most every drug focused law
>>> >>>>     enforcement I hear a lot of their stories. One of them tells me
>>> >>>>     that 95%+ of crime is drug related. CPS type problems they put
>>> at
>>> >>>>     about 80% with the remaining 15% made of of perverts that should
>>> >>>>     probably be castrated upon a verdict.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>     On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:03 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>>> >>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>         I had a similar situation.  Rather my wife did.  We took the
>>> >>>>         kids in (her sister�s kids).
>>> >>>>         Very similar situation, neglected, abused, drugs etc.
>>> >>>>         One of the parents got them back for a while, then the
>>> other.
>>> >>>>         Those kids still think of my wife as �mom�.  They are
>>> all
>>> >>>>         grown up with grandkids of their own now.
>>> >>>>         One of them is a solid cop in Reno. The other has not turned
>>> >>>>         out so well.
>>> >>>>         The world needs standup guys like you.
>>> >>>>         *From:* Steve Jones
>>> >>>>         *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2018 11:00 PM
>>> >>>>         *To:* [email protected]
>>> >>>>         *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents
>>> >>>>         You folks get my vent because i cant anywherr else. So like
>>> 7
>>> >>>>         years ago we took in my old ladys nephews because, well
>>> >>>>         fuckwit parents. FYI the foster care system is aweful. We
>>> >>>>         fostered them for a year and half while her brother and baby
>>> >>>>         momma sorted their shit, or so we thought. The 18 month old
>>> >>>>         at the time had a club foot, i had to build a sleeping rig
>>> >>>>         with some shoes with the ankles hooked together and the toes
>>> >>>>         locked outward with a ruler, i worked his legs in and out
>>> til
>>> >>>>         his hip popped one night, i thought i broke his hip, but it
>>> >>>>         was just something going back. The 4 year old you couldbt
>>> >>>>         understand cause they thought baby talk was cute so they
>>> >>>>         never taught him to speak. We fixed that, and that was the
>>> >>>>         least bad of the fuckery. This was me, the old lady,
>>> >>>>         a1,2,4,and 5 year old with our 2 in a tiny 2 bedroom.
>>> >>>>         Finally got these boys shaped up and bought a house for
>>> room,
>>> >>>>         and a week later they gave them back to the mom. The old
>>> >>>>         ladies brother never did what he was supposed to.
>>> >>>>         Now today was their grandmas (my old ladies step moms)
>>> >>>>         funeral, so whats this trashcan do? Gets arrested for
>>> selling
>>> >>>>         fucking meth
>>> >>>>         So dealing with all that comes with a funeral, we had to be
>>> >>>>         late dealing with the child services people. Get all that
>>> >>>>         squared away, get through the funeral and now find out we
>>> >>>>         also get the joy of headlice.
>>> >>>>         Seriously, fucking shit fuck. How do people do this shit to
>>> >>>>         kids, theyre not just a thing you have while doing other
>>> >>>> things.
>>> >>>>         Im not lawfully allowed to discuss any of this with anyone
>>> >>>>         who is remotely involved, i figure none of you are.
>>> >>>>         But seriously, what the fuck, you get your kids back and
>>> sell
>>> >>>>         meth. And theyre already asking if they sign their righys if
>>> >>>>         they can see the kids still.
>>> >>>>         I have very few skills, and none of rhem involve the ability
>>> >>>>         to not want to feed these people lead
>>> >>>>
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