We're digressing quite a bit here, but at the end of the day the
government skims money from one part of the economy and injects it into
another part of the economy and colloquially we call that a "Tax". Let
politicians spin it however they want.
Calling it "Mandatory Contribution" is just marketing semantics, and
ultimately the customer pays for that whether or not we choose to make
it a separate line item.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 4/24/2018 1:02:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] USF
Not sure where you are getting that from ........
Words are important, because they mean something.....
USF is defined as a 'Mandatory Contribution' (obligation on
Telco/Carriers/ISP's) to the USAC Fund, mandated/ managed by the FCC.
It is not defined as a TAX.
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/universal-service-support-mechanisms
However the Provider is Allowed to "RECOVER" their 'USF Contribution'
from their Customers, (IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO ! ) (there is a set of
loose rules on how this is accomplished... sadly these are not hard an
fast rules either ! ).
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
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From: "Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:02:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] USF
That is rich.
So a telecom is not allowed to charge for USF, but they can charge a
USF recovery fee.
I fail to see the difference here.
Sort of like Apple's "Overseas profits" of ~~ $225 billion. It was not
actually "overseas", it was actually held here in the USA, but was
merely labeled as "overseas".
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/24/2018 8:47 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
No !
Before we discuss this...
You need to specify what perspective you are asking the question
from ?
Are you the Buyer ? or are you the Seller ?
Are you Contributing to USF Fund directly to the FCC or are you a
deminius entity ?
No One is allowed under the Law to "Charge" USF.
Only Entity that is Allowed under the Law to require "Mandatory
Contribution" is the FCC to qualified Telecom Providers.
Now if you are talking about USF Recovery Fee... well that is a whole
now gambit... not much 'rules and regulations' there.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:30:37 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] USF
Point to point Ethernet over fiber should not have to be charged for
USF.
But if you receive DIA/backbone over it it then qualifies?
But if you charge your customers for USF then the DIA circuit should
not be charged.
Do I have this correct?
