Yeah, straying off-topic but our 6GHz link is actually a Trango that we own
and are moving around as we upgrade to higher capacity backhauls.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The older ubiquiti radios can be set to "compliance test" mode, and then
> you can use any channel that the chipset supports (not legally, obviously).
> On later firmware, they get rid of that option, and the new radios are
> locked to the US/Canada country code, so they're a lot harder to do
> blatantly illegal stuff with (unless you get the world wide version, which
> you aren't supposed to be able to buy in the US, but it's not hard to get
> one if you really want to). I don't think you can get too far into the 6ghz
> range with a normal Rocket, but they did (maybe still do... ) make an M6
> version for the Russian market...
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have picked Ubiquiti 6GHz links on a rocket I use for spectral analysis
>> that has 4900 to 6xxx ...I was given it when I replaced that Rocket with
>> Cambium EPMP .... client was using ,5740 on Rocket...claims he did know why
>> it had all those channels....guess he felt guilty and gave it to
>> me...another tool in my bag...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 10:58 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pop the cover on the AF5x, there is a tiny screwdriver adjustment marked
>>> “freq”.  Just tweak it up to 6 GHz and you are good to go.  Saves lots of
>>> money that way.  <grin>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jeremy
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>
>>> I have an AF5X on 3' UBNT dishes (x-pol modified) that does 300x100 at
>>> 19 miles.  It is about to be swapped for 6GHz though.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mimosa B5c can pull 500Mbps to 1Gbps on that type of link depending on
>>>> how much spectrum you want to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 2:32 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, that explains everything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:28 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3ft... Jirous on one side and one of the WB Optic on the other actually!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wow, what size dishes?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 3:16 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chuck we just did a 13 mile link using AF5XHD, getting about 350mbps in
>>>> both directions using 60mhz and 50/50 ratio.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2018 2:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, if you go with 3' dishes you might be getting close to $1500 in
>>>> cost, but that'll easily cover it with 2 footers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only parts involved are going to be the dishes and the radios, so
>>>> it's pretty simple to price... well, I suppose mounts and surge suppressors
>>>> too, but I assume you know where to get those...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, that is what I am looking for.  Actually not sure yet what up
>>>> down ratio the customer will be buying yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I tell the owners $1500 for parts then I should be good to go?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:47 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's because airfibers use a fixed up/down ratio (75/25, in this
>>>> case). If you needed 50/50, this link would only be get you somewhere
>>>> around 140Mbps each way.
>>>>
>>>> Signal is just a little too low to get 8X (256qam) on this case, but I
>>>> probably could if I changed them to the new HD version, since they can get
>>>> a little higher power at any given modulation, and they can achieve higher
>>>> modulations at lower signal levels... it might even be able to do 1024qam
>>>> (it probably could with 3' dishes anyway). going to a 50mhz channel would
>>>> also add some 20% capacity (50mhz is the max for the standard af-5x, but
>>>> the hd can go up to 100mhz if you have lots of spectrum to burn).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An entire link with 2' dishes should come to router around $1000. I
>>>> haven't priced the 3' dishes recently, but they are quite a bit pricier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:21 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is the 65 Mbps a limitation of the link or system settings or ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:16 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* af
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 kM unlicensed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's an example of a 25km AF-5x link using 2' dishes. I'd probably
>>>> use AF-5xHD radios these days, and I'd use the airFiber dishes (the only
>>>> difference between them and the RocketDish LW is that they're slant vs 
>>>> H/V).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Which is better, Rocket 5AC + RocketDish LW
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> AF5X + AF-5G34-S45
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or some other brand.  Hauling out PTP to a customer.  Like to keep the
>>>> bandwidth up but they are not currently asking for more than 100 Mbps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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