thanks Mark, Yeah particularly with the fact that some AGI startups have received seed funding (namely SingularityNet led by Ben Goertzel).
it becomes important to understand that for AGI to come to fruition the initial seed funding from early adopters and enthusiasts is there for the company to survive crossing the chasm to the early mainstream, or pragmatists. Matt Mahoney has often quoted that full fledged AGI would likely require on the order of trillions of dollars if using silicon valley types. Ben has managed to cut costs 50-100 fold by employing from Ethiopia, but that still means it would likely take 10's of billions of dollars. (notably Deep Mind with nearly a billion dollars in funding and some of the worlds top talent hasn't achieved it. so money is quite pertinent to the pursuit of AGI. It is better to think of these things now in early stage rather than after coffers run dry or a series of abysmal AGI company flops due to not being customer/market centric. On June 12, 2018 2:31:19 PM EDT, Mark Nuzz via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: >This is hardly spam, and Logan is not a spammer. The topic of AGI >business >development has been discussed on this list many times. > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:46 AM, MP via AGI <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> Don’t spam us with marketing nonsense. This is a place to discuss >> artificial minds, not selling them! >> >> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Logan Streondj via AGI < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, So I read some more of the "Beyond the Chasm" marketing book. >They >> talk about how ther are enthusiasts/innovators, which like trying out >new >> tech, and they will pretty much try anything so long as it is free >and they >> can help make it better. but they generally don't have much money to >throw >> at these things. One of the main interesting points from a financial >> standpoint is that some innovators/enthusiasts may have access to >> "visionaries" or approximately VP/VC level people that want to use >the >> technology to get ahead of the competition in some manner. Typically >they >> will have access to millions of dollars, and may have some vision for >how >> they can utilize the technology for their particular purpose, so it's >> kindof a double-edged sword, on the one hand it's a good source of >funding, >> on the other hand they will likely want/need some control over how >the >> product is made to make it applicable for their use-case. These >visionaries >> are pretty few and far in between and generaly they want something >new, so >> only have at most a few chances once one of these visionaries picks >up on >> it. Since after a while "the next big thing" will show up and they'll >be >> off doing that. So the idea is that have to utilize the resouorces >given in >> this initial burst to launch to the early-majority, or the >"pragmatists". >> they stick with things longer term, but they need references in order >to >> feel safe with using something. However they dont' count visonaries >as >> references, but only other pragmatists as references. The key here is >have >> to find a small B2B niche that is "hurting real bad" for a solution >that >> our tech can alleviate/solve. once have the product developed for >that >> small B2B niche, can have some good references, and can get a toehold >into >> the early-majority. at which point have to spread to other niches, >until >> have enough of a strong-hold to have wide appeal. I think an ICO may >be >> equivalent to a "visionary" early-adopter kinda fund. so it would >make >> sense for SingNet to pick some pragmatist niche to initially >specialize >> for, and then move out from there. for example The most natural >"pragmatist >> niche" for Pyash is providing software for managing formal >multi-lingual >> meetings, basically replacing the roles of >president/secretary/translator. >> particularly useful for multi-national holding companies, government >bodies >> that have multiple official languages, and corporations operating >within a >> linguistically diverse area. though I think something like that would >have >> to be after the software supermarket is setup, as the software >supermarket >> is basically and outsourcing solution that makes it cheaper/easier to >> develop other software. What ideas do you have for bringing either >> SingNet/AGI or your projects through the adoption lifecycle? -- Logan >> Streondj, A dream of Gaia's future. twitter: >https://twitter.com/streondj >> You can use encrypted email with me, how to: >https://emailselfdefense.fsf. >> org/en/ key fingerprint: BD7E 6E2A E625 6D47 F7ED 30EC 86D8 FC7C FAD7 >> 2729 ------------------------------------------ Artificial General >> Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/ >> groups/agi/Td7a8f23ab13f0b5f-M465b2bdbba56004d47b97b9a Delivery >options: >> https://agi.topicbox.com/groups >> >> *Artificial General Intelligence List ><https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* >> / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + >> participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery >> options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups> Permalink >> ><https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Td7a8f23ab13f0b5f-Mc2be912879fa47fefdff8ee0> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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