Thanks for that John. To my mind, partial and complete strings are parts of one, same concept. And from strings (in any format), we may elope to quantum strings outwards. At least, conceptually. The point is, theoretically we may complete the fullest journey of the world's collective, explicit knowledge.
What we care about depends on the understanding we desire to engender. According to my understanding, an integral exists within every complete set of thesis and antithesis, which removes at once the need to view the concept exclusively in dualistic terms, and immediately enables such a dualistic, viewing capability. Again, that thing with versional reality (in the sense of general relativity). Seems to my mind it all starts there. I think, for AGI, we care about the whole concept holistically, as well as every, other concept (as components) we decide to append to the AGI theme. I'm re-aligning my thoughts to your question on a real thermodynamic universe. Would that include X degrees temperature in any direction, N-degrees (for now) in terms of X-universal boundary, or infinity? In other words, which universe exactly are we referring to, and what are the boundary constraints of that universe? I think, for AGI, we should constrain that universal boundary to the reasoning universe. In that sense then, a real thermodynamic universe, which is based on carbon. Perhaps, as understanding expands, the boundary of the universe would expand too, and we might eventually discover a practical doorway from one universe to another. Is this not what AGI is aiming for, a practical application of a multiverse? Rob ________________________________ From: John Rose <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2018 12:22 PM To: 'AGI' Subject: RE: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI <[email protected]> > > > And both are beautifully brought together by this passage: > "In order to discuss more fully the concept of effective complexity, it is > essential to examine in detail the nature of complex adaptive systems. We > shall see that their learning or evolution requires, among other things, the > ability to distinguish, to some extent, the random from the regular. Effective > complexity is then related to the description of the regularities of a system > by > a complex adaptive system that is observing it. (Gell-Mann, 1994, The Quark > and the Jaguar (p.50)) > Nice. Thanks for that. Yes. Part of my reason for saying "computational distance from agent perspective" (not to be a parrot) but attempting to vectorize from a one dimensional compressor's sensory input, for example feeding data to command line RAR.exe, to a multidimensional topology of computational awareness...building a 4+ dimensional mental visual. Effective complexity (EC) is attractive for doing this. But whatever, they are both re-expressions of similar stuff KC and EC... I think... well... EC being more CAS aligned and KC a foundation for AIT and perhaps having more mathematical utility. But KC looks more at whole strings and EC lends more to partial strings. We care more abound partial strings for AGI methinks? In this real thermodynamic universe? John ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T55454c75265cabe2-M8a875e219a02c7def6a0ef1b Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
