Quite a story. I had hoped you had found the magic words to get out of the situation, but I guess this goes too. I don't assume you're the kind of person who starts fights like this.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 19:16 Steve Richfield <steve.richfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Stefan, > > "What a f...ing winp, who needs 4 armed guards just to walk around. You > gotta be the biggest wimp there is". > > "Hey someone, throw him a knife" > > "Only wimps, women and sissies need weapons. I wanna grind your face into > the concrete with my bare hands". > > With that, he folded up his knife and put it into his pocket. > > I then spit in his face and bitchslapped him as hard as I could. > > He lost it and came at me like a cat with fingernails extended. > > Then for maybe a minute I was bullfighting, stepping aside as I tagged him > each time he made successive passes. I had relaxed as much as possible to > conserve my energy. > > Then he settled down and decided to really fight, but he had already > dumped and blown his adrenaline. After a few punches that confirmed his > exhaustion, I unleashed a barrage of 2nd knuckle punches to his face. > > He blocked with his fists, but 2nd knuckles go easily between fists, so he > opened his hands. I probably broke some small bones in his hands > > He then turned away from me, swinging uselessly around his sides at me. > > Now, his gang was laughing and they came running to rescue him. > > Hiding my own exhaustion, I looked at the gang and asked "Does anyone else > wanna play?" but I got no answer, so I walked away > > I had won mostly because my opponent was pursuing two other goals besides > beating me - impressing his gang and satisfying his anger, while my only > goal was to stay alive. > > I made it look like I just played with him, then finished him off, though > that was NOT how I saw it. > > I hid my martial arts skills by converting from fist to 2nd knuckle at the > last instant before contacts - which fortunately no one noticed. > > The gang didn't then attack me because it looked like I had beaten their > leader 100% fair and square, though I had "cheated" on plain sight. > > Yes, my ears were ringing, I could taste a bit of my own blood, I was a > bit dizzy, etc., but this had worked out perfectly. > > Steve > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 4:44 AM Stefan Reich via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> > wrote: > >> > I once had a related incident, where in high-school I was accosted by a >> gang of 5 teenage switch-blade-carrying delinquents >> >> THAT happened to you? OMG. Our schools are bad too, but not like that I >> guess. Kudos for solving this situation. Are you going to tell us how you >> did it? >> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 08:34, Steve Richfield <steve.richfi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I am helping a friend get ready for a million-dollar mediation - and we >>> are wrestling with a complex issue that appears to be mathematical in >>> nature, akin to the Prisoner's Dilemma, and possibly a missing piece of AGI. >>> >>> The situation is complicated, but in a way like Israel or Ireland where >>> two groups think they own the same thing, so they get together to discuss >>> how this might be unfairly divided between them. My group sees the other as >>> robbers who have acted fraudulently to secure their position, while the >>> other group has papers in place giving them effective title - but with a >>> 20-year wait to get anything. The mediation is how to divide up the money >>> now, with some dangerous but uncertain leverage to ruin the robbers in >>> court if they don't act reasonably. >>> >>> This seems to all boil down to “robber’s rules”. Why don’t robbers >>> routinely kill their victims and strip them of their valuables? This is >>> addressed in *Adventures in Arabia* by William Seabrook. There are >>> several reasons – that all seem to sort of apply here: >>> 1. Other robbers will see killers as being without principle, and >>> so won’t trust them to fairly divide the booty. Therefore, it is more >>> profitable to first kill the prospective killer – instead of the victim. >>> 2. Blood is SO messy – when simply the threat of death can probably >>> accomplish the same thing. >>> 3. If you don’t leave your victim with SOMETHING he might perish, >>> and his death would be blamed on you. >>> 4. If you are too greedy, others will hear about it and mount a >>> posse to come after you. >>> 5. If he has powerful friends, this could result in your own death. >>> >>> In a real-life incident described in his book, the author was accosted >>> out in the middle of the dessert by a band of bandits. He produced a note >>> written in Arabic he had been given to address such situations. The robbers >>> carefully read the note – and sent him on his way without robbing him. How >>> could any words possibly have turned such a situation around? His next goal >>> was to find out precisely what the note said… >>> >>> I once had a related incident, where in high-school I was accosted by a >>> gang of 5 teenage switch-blade-carrying delinquents – very much like the >>> last scene in *Westside Story*. I was able to walk away uninjured. I >>> starting by challenging their leader… >>> >>> I would think that SOMEONE has studied this sort of thing in the past - >>> does anyone here know of such a study? >>> >>> Mediations seem SO much like ball squeezing contests. So, what is the >>> winning strategy? >>> >>> With no agreement my group gets nothing, and the other group must wait >>> 20 years to get it all. With an agreement, we cut this baby in two >>> according to agreed upon percentages. >>> >>> There seems to be two camps: >>> 1. Demand 100%, or else Russian Roulette in court with maybe a 50:50 >>> chance, and >>> 2. Divide it in half or ??? >>> >>> There will doubtless be head games, Mutt and Jeff setups, etc., as this >>> thing unfolds. >>> >>> I posted this here because SO much of what people here expect an AGI to >>> resolve are disputes much like this one. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Steve Richfield >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Stefan Reich >> BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems >> > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5dd6b6c7d648588e-M1b5464378f23c1915a9dee61> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5dd6b6c7d648588e-M23c4da7b410a69fda1231db6 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription