I wrestled with similar issues regarding associativity and cognitive
operations when writing this paper

https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.05269

-- see Section 6.2.1 where I show that if you have a set of mutually
associative combinational operators, then you get a very nice subpattern
hierarchy ... which is much messier to get without mutual associativity...

An interesting question is whether: IF you have a set of mutually
associative combinational operators, can you then isomorphically map the
functions being combined into Hilbert space vectors to that the
(associative) combinations map into vector operations?   I have not thought
about this before and am not sure if it can be made to work

Quantum mechanics uses complex Hilbert spaces, and i did go thru some work
to make an approximate isomorphism btw paraconsistent logic truth values
and complex amplitudes,

https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.07498

but that addresses a different part of the same problem, it seems

-- Ben




On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:45 AM YKY (Yan King Yin, η”„ζ™―θ΄€) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 1/30/21, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Unless I remember wrong (which is possible), function application in a
> > Scott domain is not associative, e.g.
> >
> > (f(g) ) (h)
> >
> > is not in general equal to
> >
> > f( g(h) )
> >
> > However function composition is associative, and the standard products
> > on vectors in Hilbert space are associative
> >
> > So it seems what you're doing may not be quite right, and you need to
> > be looking at some sort of fairly general nonassociative algebras over
> > Hilbert space instead ... or something...
> >
> > Or am I misunderstanding something?
> 
> 
> Damn... you're right πŸ˜†
> 
> I have no idea how to make one function "apply" to another, except by
> function composition, so that was what I did.  But I forgot about
> associativity...
> 
> I don't know if I should pursue along this any further.... it seems
> computer-implementable but it's very complicated...  and I currently
> don't know how to make non-associative algebras....
> 
> Thanks for pointing out my mistake, it's helpful πŸ˜…
> YKY


-- 
Ben Goertzel, PhD
http://goertzel.org

β€œHe not busy being born is busy dying" -- Bob Dylan

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