Maybe electromagnetic noise from neurons is significant. So what? If noise causes nearby neurons to fire, we can still model the effect using synaptic weights. Normal training will compensate for the effect.
I don't know what Colin expects to find from his Xchip when he doesn't even know what it will look like. He is all about science but he has no theory, no hypothesis, and no planned experiment to test whatever it is. On Mon, May 10, 2021, 10:49 PM Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5/10/21, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, May 10, 2021, 4:16 PM Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I can't speak for Colin but I do know that he isn't implementing > >> algorithms.... > >> > > > > Exactly. He is proposing an "Xchip" that reproduces the electrical noise > > produced by real neurons. What he isn't proposing is any sort of > > experiment, or any chip design, or any rational argument why this noise > is > > important other than that the last 70 years of trying to solve AI have > > failed. He conveniently ignores all the progress we have made in AI with > > neural networks that model the spiking rate as a continuous signal > > representing a clamped, weighted sum of inputs and that learn by > adjusting > > anything that reduces the output error. It's like he is trying to > > understand social networks by studying the noise from the CPU circuit > > board. > > > > When Colin can answer my and WOM's questions I will take him seriously. > But > > I don't expect that to ever happen. > > Well, your argument is a classic "begging the question" where you have > already presumed the strong electromagnetic field is just noise. Maybe > it is. Maybe not. Maybe partly. > > Plainly a lot happens at the cell level with electric field action. > Ions are moving around, eg into cells, subject to electric fields. > What happens at a macro brain level or the middle stages with EMF? Why > is there a presumption that such activity is noise? > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7c7052974ce450f1-Ma46f601fe9e9f844b349b73f Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
