But Matt, I don't believe people that get everything they want basically are still unhappy and think about suicide and do it too. I have seen humans, including at times myself, where there are times - years of stressful days, constantly in pain, and then, there are times of complete happiness, with no pain or worry or stress. I don't think humans *always* want "something better than what they have currently hence are never happy". And, if happiness is partially about hunting and picking out a new better food or girl, then that can be part of the utopia plan. Simply you cycle it back and forth so its not noticeable you are not got the best one - you feel like you did, you then go off to play with it, in complete happiness, and then once bored, are made-to find the better one, and so do, and continue like that. You don't get bored of eating the same thing everyday. I eat fries and nuggets every day, I have realized frozen fries are mostly just potato, they are not fully deep fries and I eat now flat steak cut wide cuts, and throw out any thin or burnt parts, and watch I cook them correctly so have less acrylamide. I pick off burnt parts of my chicken nuggets and bread. They raise your carbs saturated-fat etc but I watch my levels are just right so it does Not really matter. I don't look for better supers, they are the best (well, restaurant fries I prefer more). I am happy eating them everyday, same routine, no boredom. I do wish I could eat them nonstop. Of course I do want to do other things and not just food consumption for eternity.
In some way you are right though as I said, we want to not die, we want immortality, naturally, and that means to be as close as can to a rock or block of hard metal, an unchanging (un-dying) statue. We are just machines, death is change of a machine's structure/ particle's positions basically. What makes us different from rocks and other machines that do do stuff is we last long and have a long history and are trying to / thinking about how be a immortal rock, and we change a tiny bit so can evolve and find a better way to last even longer. Even when we find the best defense system to make sure we don't change ex. from meteors smashing us to bits, we still need to use that said system to move and dodge things and repair etc. So in some way, if we get perfectly immortal like a statue, we do die, we can't move, or sense anything, while if we don't we are still a tiny bit unhappy technically perhaps and always on the hunt for something better to make us live longer (which means better defense systems, better repair nodes, and in the human sense, better video games, cloning mates that breed new nodes fast, better food stashes and food, better clothes, better tables, better design, --whatever goal insert here--). Those tools from thousands of years back though are not intelligences, they are just tools, made by human intelligence. Arithmetic is good it is much more recently utilized as you said around the 1950 but it also is not a general purpose AI that works on its own intelligence. Computing power is doubling and such right now or was but ASIs will make faster doubling times happen, as we know already ASIs will think and move 100s of times faster than us. No? So that means this 60 years you mention Matt is actually more like 6 or 0.6 years? ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7c0c95d86a178556-M3f93a9991742f4ef1a1b36db Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
