On Wed, May 15, 2024, 1:39 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024, at 10:27 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
>
> Does everyone agree this is AGI?
>
> It's not AGI yet because of a few things. Some are more important than
> others. Here is basically all that is left:
>
> It cannot yet do long haul tasks that take weeks, and much steps. Ex.
> create Windows 12.
>

Windows 11 is 50M lines of code, equivalent to 25,000 developer years or $5
billion. That's not including maintenance,  which is 80% of total costs on
typical projects and probably much higher given the number of users.
Microsoft has a market cap of over $3 trillion. So this is not something we
could expect a human to do.

It cannot yet learn online very fast, only in monthly batches or with a
> limit aim for network size. I guess that's how to say it? Correct me if
> understand it wrong.
>

Humans require 20-25 years of training on 1 GB of text. LLMs teain on 15 TB
in a few weeks.

It has no body integrated.

True, but we also have self driving cars that have 1/16 as many accidents
as human drivers.

>
> No video AI integrated.
>

Humans can't generate video either. It costs about $100 million to produce
a major movie.

>
> And they said in the email it is as smart as GPT-4 Turbo I tried, which
> failed my hard puzzle as bad as early GPT-4. My secret hard puzzle is not
> overly large, it says to stick to physics and gives it a dozen things to
> combinationally use and pick between. It is a mind-bending test to hell
> that is simple enough as hell that a human should know how to solve it in
> the room and setting provided. GPT-4 instead says things like it will use
> the spoon to tickle out the water from the other side of the room to get
> the gate to come down, and that it can sneak by the cloud and ask it to
> leave even though I said it cannot talk and does it's thing stated, for the
> cloud.
>

How many humans could pass your test. Does GPT-4 make the same kind of
mistakes as a human, like not following instructions?

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