Not only for humans. Apparently, Nematodes display survivalist and chemical intent in that like-connectors automatically search for and bond chemically to develop increasingly complex networks up to the saturation of the limited expression of its biology. Similar behaviour is noted for neurons.
I've read how trees may develop a subterranean communication network of the individual and collective states of a "forest". These relate to inherent, reactive connectedness. I agree that plants emit and receive informational signals, but it may not be aware of its own existence, signaling and messaging. Therefore, the degree of broadest-sense qualia generation does not prove an awareness of qualia, as cognitive experience. The most-basic metric should be evidential awareness of qualia on a complexity scale of awareness, not reactive or resonant-based "awareness" alone (as a-priori states), even with a degree of reactiveness intact. Let's rephrase accordingly: in nature, which objects exhibit state responsiveness to internal changes, and to external stimuli? Let's agree that all objects do at some level. Next, which of these objects generate additional systemic experiential information (as qualia) vs acute state changes? Last, which qualia-generating systems provide evidence of the pro-active and deliberate contextualization of qualia as factors of system management and intentional adaptation, and exercise a degree of Go/NoGo gatekeeping over indicated adaptation trigger states? Can automatic response triggers to systemic qualia be deliberately overuled? On Wed, 02 Sept 2026, 11:47 John Rose via AGI, <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wednesday, September 02, 2026, at 5:02 AM, Quan Tesla wrote: > > Not biased, realistic. A grain of silicon, clump of sandstone, a granite > rock generate informational energy. Informational energy changes are > probably recorded in the universe as gestalt state effects, but a rock > itself cannot be self aware. > > Simple structures exist deterministically with only the natural free > choice permitted within its relative mathematical geometry. > > To have qualia would require physical architecture for generating and > processing qualia. > > > You’re saying having qualia and/or self-awareness are true or false. > That’s mean you would have specific physical and informational criteria to > minimally qualify. How simple does an organism have to be to have qualia or > a molecular/sub-molecular structure to have self-awareness. There would > have to be an answer. I would argue a rock has some measurable > self-awareness due to physical properties and looped back information > emission effects. It would be tiny but existent. Are qualia and > self-awareness only for humans? Perhaps it’s just terminology but when > build nano-structures and blurring biological lines with technology these > have to be examined. > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T906c878e4ba411be-M6968162a84a99f01b1451ba0> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T906c878e4ba411be-M558e8c0f6ce7e5d79237a470 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
