On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote: > Mike A:Who wants a computer not in the > > mood to do its work, or committing suicide? > > Anyone who wants an AGI - IOW a machine smart enough to be able to think > about whether its work may or may not be worth the effort, and whether its > life may or may not be worth living, given its goals and likely chances of > success ... and smart enough to be able to quit projects that may or may not > be worthwhile. Someone who wants more than the dumb, algorithmic brutes > AI-ers currently produce, which just do whatever they're told to the bitter > end, completely unable to question anything and completely inflexible. > > Mike:The human race is no gold standard of intelligent behavior. > > This again is a standard AI-er conceit, and also rather unquestioning. Human > intelligence provides the only standard of intelligent behavior there is > (with a nod to the odd animal superiority). I've never seen anyone who > claims there is a higher standard, show the slightest capacity to > demonstrate what that standard might entail.
This is just kind of personal opinions here... I don't discount your take on this. It's more like I just don't like the way people reason and behave. It seems almost nothing but caprices, whims, biases, proceeding off inadequate information, taking the false for true, wasteful, the total lack of empathy, tiresome social rules such as those relating to class, and on and on.... If the intent is really to duplicate human intelligence, make more of that crap, then just make more humans, and that is after all what has been going on all this time. Especially in China! > > Sure, everything is improvable. But AI-ers' understanding of what real world > intelligence involves, is woefully narrow - for instance, they don't even > realise that intelligence involves being able to question everything - and > be unsure of everything - as Descartes was, and science is, explicitly, and > everyone's brain is implicitly. > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
