I think for you, Ben, the painful thing would be *not* answering at the speed 
of light 

You do remember that painless/emotionless Elliott was just trying to decide 
what *restaurant* to go to?! ...  for even the simplest of real world 
problems,there is no stopping rule - and you really wouldn't want to be like 
Ellliott.


From: Ben Goertzel 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:53 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] Real World Reasoning





  Our entire emotional system is designed to help us solve real world problems 
- by pressuring us into solutions, even though we could quite reasonably, a la 
Elliott, keep thinking about them forever.

  That's why our emotions are painful - to pressure us into real world action 
*before* we've given real world problems "due consideration". ("Due 
consideration" of real world problems is infinite).  If there were no pain, as 
you seem to think a good idea, we wouldn't decide and act, and we wouldn't 
survive, and nor would any real world agent.


I would personally continue to decide and act, in the absence of pain qualia ...

However, a young child or a dog -- or maybe a typical person, I'm not sure --- 
perhaps would not do so, and in the absence of pain would die due to stupidly 
endangering themselves..

Humans have the capability to liberate themselves, to a partial but important 
extent, from their evolved goals and motivations.

-- Ben
 

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