There can be many reasons why a blog participant may need an argument repeated. Maybe he wasn't there, or was not paying attention at the time the argument was posted. Or he doesn't not belive in the argument, or simple prefers to ignore it because it is in the way of his own argument. That's why it may be useful to have a permanent repository where arguments that are solid enough are kept for reference, something like a forum. I think Ben did something in this direction 2 or 3 months ago.
But a forum can be easily misused. One alternative would be a repository where each participant would be allowed to post just one article on his/her ideas, and will then be the curator for that article as needed. The blog would continue serving as a tool for open discussion. Sergio From: Russell Wallace [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:26 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] re Computing functions versus solving equations (calculating versus physical execution) I agree completely. For example, some months ago I set out my reasons for thinking it won't be productive to try to copy the architecture of the human brain short of full uploading. I haven't repeated my view on that since then, because I don't have any new arguments or evidence bearing on the matter, and repeating the same arguments would just annoy people. I think that's a good criterion: is this a new argument, or just a repeat of an old one? If the latter, it probably doesn't need to be repeated to the same audience. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: In general, I think it would be good if subgroups of people sharing certain AI intuitions could carry out a discussion on this list, with others listening in and contributing occasionally, but with others NOT repetitively chiming into the discussion with comments of the basic meaning "By the way, I told you guys 100 times before that your paradigm sucks, so why do you keep on pursuing it?!" For example, I would be happy to listen in on others' discussions on analog computing approaches to AGI, making technical comments or asking technical questions occasionally; and I would not feel the need to interrupt these discussions repeatedly with comments of the form "Why don't you guys adopt my preferred AGI paradigm instead!!" This is almost making me feel motivated to create a set of posting guidelines for the list ;p .. but, not quite... -- Ben G On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Russell Wallace <[email protected]> wrote: On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: OK, perhaps we should just stay here and distinguish "weak AGI" where people attempt to somehow leverage data point computation into an intelligent process as now seems to be the norm on this forum, and "strong AGI" where we attempt to move up to whatever metalevel is at least as high as our brains operate on, and which can also conceivably be performed by plausibly manufacturable hardware, albeit not anything like present CPUs. Any problem with those terms? Yes, 'strong AI' already has an established meaning, denoting the aim of producing a fully human level mind (by whatever method), as opposed to 'weak AI' which merely aims to make computers smarter and more useful than they currently are. Besides, you don't exactly need a PhD in psychology to figure out that many people will object to the word 'weak' being applied to their line of research! Personally I don't care about that so much as about the fact that your proposed usage is highly uninformative. Until you get enough like-minded people to start a separate mailing list, I would recommend coming up with a more descriptive term for your proposed line of research. AGI | <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> | Modify Your Subscription <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-11ac2389> ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
