How many of these neuroscience/AGI projects are there? My impression is there 
are quite a few real, expensively funded projects let alone mooted ideas.

They deserve a name.

Magic neurosauce.


From: Steve Richfield 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:24 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] re Computing functions versus solving equations (calculating 
versus physical execution)


Russell,


On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Russell Wallace <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Perhaps you could "recast" your argument to address doing at least enough 
human brain research ala reverse engineering to extract the general principles, 
and developing the capability to "drill down" into any details for which a 
general understanding proves inadequate?



  Put it this way, if I had funds to allocate, I would seriously look into 
throwing a few million your way, solely and precisely because reverse 
engineering the brain is necessary for uploading, and there's a chance your 
ideas might make a significant contribution there.

In the hopes of getting a reply to improve my "position" here, I think that the 
best action for present AGIers would be to distill a "short list" of what is 
needed to "blow the lid off" of neuroscience research to answer the questions 
that AGIers have, and repeat that list (with various author's comments) as an 
appendix to EVERY book, EVERY conference, EVERY proposal, etc. Then, if anyone 
with money (U.S. DOD?, IBM?, Kurzweil?) EVER looks over anything in this field, 
they will see that to achieve whatever they are seeking, that they should throw 
some money into its underpinnings.



  As it is, pardon me if this was mentioned before,

You have, but it needs periodic mention.
 

  but have you checked out the Blue Brain project? They claim to have reverse 
engineered neurons well enough to have been able to build digital models that 
reproduce the behavior of the originals.

Bullscheist. They have only emulated that miniscule part that is presently 
known. 


  If so, I don't think anyone on this list is in a position to do anything 
about that at the moment. Their announcements only displays their extreme 
ignorance.


See the above suggestion. With no demand, no one is going to build the 
equipment, so the present course probably leads to a dead end for everyone in 
AGI without SOME sort of effective action. Let's at least document what we 
would use if it were available, and re-post it in enough places that someone 
with money eventually sees it.

I wonder what Kurzweil's take on this issue is? As a smart person with some 
money, I suspect that he might have some really enlightening comments.


Steve


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