EI sounds like analogy + reification. Is it different?
From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [agi] Emergent "Inference"? Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:24:38 +0100 Can we have a simple example of emergent inference, Sergio? Here's a simple example of what I would consider emergent intelligence - if a program that deals only in a,b,c,d .. the A-Z alphabet, can suddenly start producing something like - though not the same as - Greek or Hebraic characters, or cuneiform (without of course knowing beforehand of other alphabets). That's true emergence - and the essence of AGI. Or if a program can suddenly move on from building houses with bricks to constructing houses of rocks or logs or cardboard boxes. That's true emergence. Emergence = the generation of 1) new kinds of elements that cannot be formulaically derived from the existing kinds - and/or 2) new forms that do not fit the same pattern as - cannot be inferred from - existing forms. Could you explain how "emergent **inference**" isn't a contradiction in terms? Isn't something that emerges precisely something that by definition CANNOT be "inferred" from what has gone on before? Every stage of evolution, natural and technological, is non-inferrable from the previous one. For example, the brain is not inferrable from a distributed neural net, ditto simple amphibian legs from fins, wings from furry pouches (or whatever). The tablet is not inferrable from the p.c., the jet is not inferrable from the propellor etc. I've realised that "emergent inference" is a v. useful concept - but useful; I suspect, precisely because it is a contradiction in terms. Emergence does not occur by inference but by totally different processes. ONe way of highlighting this is : can you give one example of any new kind of logic that has been "inferred" from previous kinds? Or any one new kind of geometry, that has been inferred from previous kinds? .How could topology have been inferred? Or freeform geometry? Or Riemannian geometry? AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
