John,
You've just stated* that I am forming a math. model - and given not the
slightest reason or evidence, other than "that's just the way it is."
I gave you examples of general/ conceptual thought - none of them are
mathematical. Mathematical thought is in fact demonstrably the opposite of
conceptual thought - "specific general" vs "general general" (truly
general). Maths is always tied to specifics. Conceptual thought is on the
contrary always vague.
None of you can (or will ) give any examples of a mathematical concept.
Boris merely exploded when challenged. You have retreated into fantasy.
In real world reasoning, John - you reason from the *evidence* and produce
examples. Try it sometime.
-----Original Message-----
From: John G. Rose
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:23 PM
To: AGI
Subject: RE: [agi] How Steve can be creative (or: The Nature of
Intelligence/AGI)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]]
That's what we're supposedly trying - and have - to do here. To define
what
is the form of general thought - how the brain manages to think about
"forms/shapes" and not just "squares" or "triangles" - how the brain
manages to see a "human" or a "man" and not just the highly specific form
of "John Rose", and even then to recognize "John Rose" when that
individual
may come in radically different forms over time.
You cannot define the general except in relation to the specific, the
abstract
except in relation to the concrete, the generic except in terms of the
individual, the fluid and irregular except in terms of the rigid and
regular.
Unawares Mike you are formulating your own local mathematical model of
intelligence using symbols and operations readily available in your mind and
elsewhere. It might not be the popularly accepted math standardized and
developed by typically trained and skilled individuals, but your system will
"flow" that way over time. It approximates, perhaps working better in some
ways, not better in others. Bending, stretching, creating the rules, a
subjective projective..
That's just the way it is.
MikeMath.
John
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