> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]] > > Clearly, by anyone's criteria, an awful lot of AGI-ers - v. technically > literate > AGI-ers - are v. confused about what AGI is. Clearly not everyone does > know the difference between AI and AGI. In fact, this is a v. confused field. >
Many people on this list don't know the difference between AI and AGI. And there are overlaps between the various approaches... and many blurry lines IMO. > You clearly think that you too know what AGI is - and of course loads of > people are doing "improvisation" as outlined by me. But you haven't given a > single example, just handwaved. Try to produce one - if you're as serious > about AGI as you say - and you may find out that you're more confused than > you think. > Mike, every time you are provided with examples you just don't get it. It gets tiresome after a while. I know people's view of how AGI will be implemented changes over time. Mine has. And I know that AGI itself has changed. Many would consider 20 years ago that Google now is general intelligence for all it does. Also, an AGI implementation might perform some aspect of it while not being a comprehensive solution. Technology and expectations change over time. But specifying what AGI needs to do is not the same as having a functional model that can perform generally intelligent operations. And someone that has a good theory and is undergoing the long, risky slog of building such a machine needn't be belittled for never having completed such... and for not having every "i" dotted and "t" crossed. Building complex, sophisticated systems is tough whether in software, hardware, chemical, electromechanical, biologic, nuclear... especially systems that have never been built. Can you imagine the difficulty and risk of attempting to do this? Everyone here knows that there are unknowns. There is no perfect theory yet, there are a few "magic happens here" boxes, or at least one :) WE KNOW THAT. So what? Some people have their own ideas as to what occurs inside. We may never know until someone builds it first. That's how it works- " until one starts trying to build these things". That doesn't mean it is an invitation for a person such as you to attack "us" AGI'ers for not being able to answer some of the deeper questions. Especially when you wouldn't even know the answer if it was directly in front of you. John ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
