> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[email protected]]
> 
> 
> No one is doing this, John, and no one is saying this. No one is producing
> true improvising, exploratory robots. I don't mind you swearing at me, but
> if you're going to, bloody well produce some examples of your assertion.
> *Where* is this being said? And if you can't produce them, then have the
> courtesy to admit it.
> 

In software, improvisation is done in many, many applications. In robotics and 
other electromechanical media it is done experimentally, not to the extent you 
suggest, but looking for a box in rubble, although there are robots that do 
this somewhat, it can be a bit dangerous depending on the application.

We know all this Mike. We know the difference between AI and AGI that's why we 
work on it. But we have concrete technical research and theories and 
experimentation not just handwavium.

Your problem issue is that you don't acknowledge other people's work and really 
show no respect. Rare or/ unique individuals like Ben Goertzel who produce a 
high quantity and quality of related ground-breaking literature, for public 
consumption by the way, you totally disregard and disrespect without reading 
and understanding more that 1% of it.

Then we give you this little platform, this email list, a window into some of 
the remaining participating AGI researcher's minds and you really abuse it...

I give you credit, you come back like a tiger whenever challenged. BUT - AGI is 
one of the most important things to happen in science and technology, and human 
history. Picture yourself walking into NASA and telling them that they screwed 
up and don't know what they are doing because there has never been a man 
walking on Mars. Go try it, without any scientific or technical background and 
see what happens.

AGI is huge. This is the be-all end-all. And this is a rare opportunity to 
participate in something this big from the ground up. These opportunities are 
gone before you blink. Don't be a troll.

John 









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