Well I've started by collecting and even inventing various technologies for
long-term data storage.
for instance metal books.
http://weyounet.info/gi-os/body/hardware/

Just today I made one, with heavy duty aluminum foil pages,
and used stainless steel sheet metal as covers.
This is good for personal journals.

Laser printers can also print on aluminum.
Can laminate it with polyester for maximum strength.

Recently I've been working on how to make longevity film.
Currently most chromogenic (color) film on the market,
uses organic dyes which fade over time,
on acetate base, which is chemically unstable.

So I'm considering making a pigment based film,
which functions similarly to autochrome,
but uses stable mineral pigments,
fewer layers, and gum binder.

Otherwise raising awareness about longevity of polyester film for black and
white photo's, which is quite acceptable already.

Data storage is really important of course.
Perhaps once can get a Longevity Hardware non-profit running,
can reinvest surplus into researching things like large circuit, 3D,
toffoli gate computers.

I watched "Manufactured Landscapes" a Canadian documentary, about
industrialization in China mainly.  And probably the most disturbing part
was e-waste,  where whole towns are dedicated to recycling old computers,
they melt motherboards, to get the valuable metals and components out, and
the smell is so intense the documenter said they could sense it many
kilometers away from the town.  Also all the toxic chemicals in monitors
and such is running off into their water table, so they have to import all
their water.

That is just some additional motivation to move towards long-lived
computers, as the longer they live, the fewer we have to throw away to
contaminate the environment.
Also it would be nice if the Longevity Hardware had it as core ethic of
using the most environmentally friendly materials possible, similar to how
I'm developing various technologies for it.

Logan Streondj,
Longevity Enthusiast.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Patrick McKown <[email protected]>wrote:

> Good idea. How do we start?
>
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> *From:* Logan Streondj <[email protected]>
> *To:* AGI <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:16 AM
> *Subject:* [agi] Longevity of Hardware
>
> One issue that many seem to overlook, is the longevity of hardware issue.
> Fact is, that most hardware produced today, has a half-life of 4-7 years.
> This is only d. ue to decrease as densities of data increase.
> Now say for instance we have an AGI on such hardware,
> that would imply it would have to "die" and "reincarnate" every 4-7 years.
>
> An alternative is to have a highly modular AGI,
> where broken components can be swapped for new ones,
> but would at least necessitate a backup of every essential component.
> so that the robot could stay alive to actually repair itself.
>
> ideally however, the AGI would have backup systems that are "longevity
> hardware",
> meaning hardware with half-lives that exceed 7 years,
> and are resistant to environmental things like water, and static.
> This would necessarily imply they are bulkier, slower, and lower density,
> however many robots and even some people or companies may see it as
> worthwhile.
>
> For instance how about those robots being sent to mars
> they have to travel for many months, possibly years,
> so by the time they get there they only have,
> a few months to a year before some critical component snaps,
> and there really is no repairing it at such a distance from home.
> So better of making components with longevity hardware design.
>
> Same goes for remote islands and bases on earth,
> as well as AGI's that like to experience continuity.
>
> I'd love to start a company to produce such things,
> though likely would only be possible after making a fortune,
> meanwhile am focused on simpler longevity hardware,
> like aluminum books, film cameras, and pinhole glasses.
>
> Oh and another thing with the "modular AGI",
> the only way that would even be possible,
> is with open-source hardware designs,
> and likely non-profit manufacturing.
> because proprietary companies keep changing ports,
> and stop making "old stuff" for higher profits,
> forcing reincarnation and vessel disposal.
>
> Can you imagine being uploaded,
> and then having to die every 4 years?
> And if you can't pay enough for your new hardware,
> then you could lose all your memories permanently,
> assuming you didn't invest in longevity hardware...
>
> anyways what are your thoughts?
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