Hi,

Certainly the Asian educational system could use a lot of improvement and
augmentation.

The way many MOOC's work is to offer courses for free, but then require
payment of a fee to get an official certificate from an accredited
university associated with the course...

Regarding English, my experience is that the spoken English comprehension
of most mainland Chinese CS students is pretty poor..

Anyway I will applaud any efforts you make in this direction!  As I have so
many other fish frying, my own efforts in this regard are likely to be
restricted to launching an online AGI course.  But if I do that then I'd
certainly be happy to have my course as an option in any larger education
effort you launch...

ben

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:44 PM, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Language would be an issue in China -- most science students there can
>> grok written English, but spoken English lectures are often a problem.
>> One would need to have subtitles done, or a running Chinese translation...
>
>
> That's the least of our worries -- I've just talked to a friend recently
> about crowd-sourcing sub-titling on the web.  Someone can just translate a
> few lines when s/he's in the right mood.  The result will be superior to
> any single translation job, just like Wikipedia.
>
> Not to mention that many people already speak very good English in China...
>
> I'm working on an edited AGI textbook, as one among many background
>> projects -- hopefully to be done in mid-2013....  If so I've mused about
>> the idea of doing a MOOC (massive open online course) on AGI, probably in
>> Spring 2014 ... maybe affiliated with Hong Kong Poly U or the University of
>> Addis Ababa ...
>>
>> However, I haven't been thinking of this as a business venture, just as a
>> nonprofit offering...
>>
>
> Fine, I agree it should be an NGO.
>
> Anyway there certainly is room for multiple AI/AGI online courses...
>>
>
> The problem is not just the lack of courses, but that of accredition --
> many people in Asia need to have a certification to get work.  Also the
> lack of research opportunities.  The other day I was talking to a master's
> student whining to a PhD student because he want to do bio-physics but Hong
> Kong's universities don't offer anything in that area -- exactly like your
> comp sci student's whining in Xiamen.  I imagine young researchers all over
> Asia are in the same predicament...
>
> This is my impression of the education system in a western country such as
> the US as compared to Chine / Asia:
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> China has 5 times the population of USA but education opportunities are so
> rare that the "area under the curve" is actually smaller than the US.
>
> Here students are often complaining about "beureacracy" holding them back
> but actually it is the structure of the education system that is a mismatch
> to population size that is the problem.  They can't do the research they
> want so they're reduced to little school kids with stunted development =[
>
> YKY
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