I'm considering making a wikimedia site for this AGI group, but I am also
considering a collaborative online mindmap. A mindmap can become very
large, and the branching would provide the kind of overview of the whole
structure of content (assuming a ton of content will be created or added)
that would just be kind of invisible in a wikimedia site, except of course
for special pages that basically outline the contents, but those have to be
created post hoc, whereas with a mindmap the structure of the content
available would be apparent immediately. Then the email list would be a
notice and a log of new content. An online collaborative mindmap would also
be easier, faster, and just as useful. However with wikimedia there is a
log of who edited what and when. So without wikimedia we have to be
responsible for adding a note to the log, and sending it out.

Example of log file addition, and email for new additions/edits
November 20th, 2012 New content added to note, you know the website ->
http:// .com /agimindmap
see the map name, node structure, and note in the last topic "consciousness"
agimindmap/categorytheory/grothendeick/atomicconcepts/invariancethresholds/consciousness

Please research available mindmap and or wiki-type options if you like
either idea. There are many options available.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh, and web framework will handle sorting and tagging automatically using
> relevance and locality as key criteria. The API/SPARQL then sends it to the
> content store interchange across the web.
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Okay, so it's pretty clear that the AGI community needs a little more
>> than an email-list and forum combination... That is if we want to be a
>> little more than a side show.  AGI needs a coherent case, a community
>> center, and a unified data source to develop infrastructure to get money,
>> support,etc. Every AGI website needs be turned into a human-power,
>> machine-accelerated, collective knowledge system supporting an
>>  underlying unified data source/content repository backend. On the money
>> side, this will allow stunning effectiveness in the use of randomized,
>> controlled experiments able to isolate cause and effect in activity,
>>  microtargeting, etc . E.g. any time you received an email from the Obama
>> campaign, it had been tested on 18 smaller groups and the response rates
>> had been gauged. The campaign thought all the letters had a good chance of
>> succeeding, but the worst-performing letters did only 15 -20 percent of
>> what the best-performing emails could deliver. So if a good performer could
>> do $2.5 million, a poor performer might only net $500,000. Does anyone know
>> how much $$$ AGI research currently receives?
>>
>> On the research side, we’ll be able to better see relationships between
>> concepts. We’ll be able to merge all references to a concept onto a single
>> topic and you will have access to all the information the systems knows
>> about the concept in one place.  And that’s just the beginning.
>>
>>
>> Currently I'm working on a component
>> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/API_Rationale to plug into
>> the content repository....
>>
>> A tech architecture of what I'm working on would look something like this:
>>
>> a) web editing tool
>> b) web framework
>> c) content repository
>>
>> A content repository would manage content models and how to store them.
>> This could be something like JCR, PHPCR, CouchDB or Midgard2. Then there is
>> a web framework, responsible of matching URL requests to particular content
>> and generating corresponding web pages. This could be Drupal, Flow3,
>> Django, CodeIgniter, Midgard MVC, or something similar. And finally there
>> is the web editing tool. The web editing tool provides an interface for
>> managing contents of the web pages. This includes features like rich text
>> editing, workflows and image handling.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A recurrent thread on this list is the desire to have a fusion of
>>> forum and mailing list functionalities
>>>
>>> Fora are nice because they can be more organized than a mailing list
>>> archive.  Email lists are nice because they're better at nudging folks
>>> to participate, by making messages intrusively land in their inbox...
>>>
>>> I poked around a little (because another group I'm involved with had
>>> the same need, but more acutely), and it appears that the good old
>>> Phorum software
>>>
>>> http://www.phorum.org
>>>
>>> provides a Web forum interface, with the possibility of
>>>
>>> -- receiving posts by email
>>>
>>> -- making posts by email
>>>
>>> A Phorum hosting provider, recommended on phorum.org, is
>>>
>>> http://www.ubiquityhosting.com
>>>
>>> Note that Phorum is highly customizable, and probably someone with
>>> time to fiddle with it (not me) could set up an appropriate
>>> configuration for this group
>>>
>>> So if anyone feels like it, you may want to try to set up an AGI
>>> Phorum site....  If you can get it to work like an email list / forum
>>> hybrid [posts organized online in categories, but posts received and
>>> reply-able by email without any weirdness], then I'd advocate
>>> switching the AGI list to that format...
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> -- Ben G
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD
>>> http://goertzel.org
>>>
>>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche
>>>
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