I'm of the opinion we should follow the KISS approach & just go with wikimedia or phorum as a starting point. (I like the wiki idea better, personally, but I'll use either.) We can always do more later. But if we keep debating what's best, nothing is ever going to actually happen, and this will just fizzle.
So, let's do this: 1. Keep the email list. Enough people like it that it's not going away anyway. 2. Create a standard wiki and/or forum, so there's minimal work required to get things up & running. 3. Continue integrating additional functionality as needed. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Abram Demski <[email protected]>wrote: > To put it poetically, a "living cloth of material"... > > Mindmakers is aiming at this, at least. > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Okay, so it's pretty clear that the AGI community needs a little more >> than an email-list and forum combination... That is if we want to be a >> little more than a side show. AGI needs a coherent case, a community >> center, and a unified data source to develop infrastructure to get money, >> support,etc. Every AGI website needs be turned into a human-power, >> machine-accelerated, collective knowledge system supporting an >> underlying unified data source/content repository backend. On the money >> side, this will allow stunning effectiveness in the use of randomized, >> controlled experiments able to isolate cause and effect in activity, >> microtargeting, etc . E.g. any time you received an email from the Obama >> campaign, it had been tested on 18 smaller groups and the response rates >> had been gauged. The campaign thought all the letters had a good chance of >> succeeding, but the worst-performing letters did only 15 -20 percent of >> what the best-performing emails could deliver. So if a good performer could >> do $2.5 million, a poor performer might only net $500,000. Does anyone know >> how much $$$ AGI research currently receives? >> >> On the research side, we’ll be able to better see relationships between >> concepts. We’ll be able to merge all references to a concept onto a single >> topic and you will have access to all the information the systems knows >> about the concept in one place. And that’s just the beginning. >> >> >> Currently I'm working on a component >> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/API_Rationale to plug into >> the content repository.... >> >> A tech architecture of what I'm working on would look something like this: >> >> a) web editing tool >> b) web framework >> c) content repository >> >> A content repository would manage content models and how to store them. >> This could be something like JCR, PHPCR, CouchDB or Midgard2. Then there is >> a web framework, responsible of matching URL requests to particular content >> and generating corresponding web pages. This could be Drupal, Flow3, >> Django, CodeIgniter, Midgard MVC, or something similar. And finally there >> is the web editing tool. The web editing tool provides an interface for >> managing contents of the web pages. This includes features like rich text >> editing, workflows and image handling. >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A recurrent thread on this list is the desire to have a fusion of >>> forum and mailing list functionalities >>> >>> Fora are nice because they can be more organized than a mailing list >>> archive. Email lists are nice because they're better at nudging folks >>> to participate, by making messages intrusively land in their inbox... >>> >>> I poked around a little (because another group I'm involved with had >>> the same need, but more acutely), and it appears that the good old >>> Phorum software >>> >>> http://www.phorum.org >>> >>> provides a Web forum interface, with the possibility of >>> >>> -- receiving posts by email >>> >>> -- making posts by email >>> >>> A Phorum hosting provider, recommended on phorum.org, is >>> >>> http://www.ubiquityhosting.com >>> >>> Note that Phorum is highly customizable, and probably someone with >>> time to fiddle with it (not me) could set up an appropriate >>> configuration for this group >>> >>> So if anyone feels like it, you may want to try to set up an AGI >>> Phorum site.... If you can get it to work like an email list / forum >>> hybrid [posts organized online in categories, but posts received and >>> reply-able by email without any weirdness], then I'd advocate >>> switching the AGI list to that format... >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> -- Ben G >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> AGI >>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>> RSS Feed: >>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10514698-9a8cda1e >>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>> >>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/7190161-766c6f07> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > Abram Demski > http://lo-tho.blogspot.com/ > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23050605-bcb45fb4> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
