If each AGI with the intelligence of a human being costs 14 billion to make, and the fastest way it can help us is to join one of the collective games that millions of humans are joining to solve hard visual research problems, then it's not cost effective, and not a faster way to solve problems. There is no guarantee that a smarter as human AGI is going to be able to create another AGI that is much smarter than a human being, the idea of AGI that is billions of times smarter than all humans is a big dream, not necessarily a realistic dream.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Some people say "the end product resulting from AGI research = the end of > human life on this planet" > There is no reason to believe that diverting resources to AGI research > will lead to an end to Alzheimer's more quickly than any other method. > > In particular we are now figuring out how to harness the brain's of > hundreds of thousands of people in collective games that yeild new advances > in science that no super computer can currently keep up with. > > There maybe much faster ways of solving the medical problems this world > faces including possibly this method. > > For reference please watch the final segment of this video. > http://video.pbs.org/video/2303503361/ > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes it does, AGI will make all those problems history. But don't worry, >> as Nietzsche once said: "Truth is created by those who have the power to >> enforce their point of view." >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> "AGI reseach = cancer, AIDS, heart disease, Alzheimer’s disease, >>> Nanotechnology and clean energy reseach all in one." >>> >>> No it doesn't. >>> 1. Paying for research does not equal paying for the delivery of a >>> product. >>> 2. A message isn't obvious until you campaign successfully to make that >>> message obvious. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Azn A <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, so it's pretty clear that the AGI community needs a little more >>>> than an email-list and forum combination... That is if we want to be a >>>> little more than a side show. AGI needs a coherent case, a community >>>> center, and a unified data source to develop infrastructure to get money, >>>> support, etc. Every AGI website needs be turned into a human-power, >>>> machine-accelerated, collective knowledge system supporting an underlying >>>> unified data source/content repository back-end. In other words, a services >>>> architecture that allows for all of our apps to connect together and share >>>> one common data store. >>>> >>>> On the money side, this will allow stunning effectiveness in the use of >>>> randomized, controlled experiments able to isolate cause and effect in >>>> public activities, microtargeting: algorithms weighing as many as 1,000 >>>> different personal variables to generate probabilities predicting whether >>>> individual citizens will donate, etc. For example, the Obama campaign used >>>> experimental methods to test nearly all of its online communications, >>>> randomizing the design of Web pages, the timing of text message blasts, and >>>> the language of email solicitations to measure their relative >>>> effectiveness. Any time you received an email from the Obama campaign, it >>>> had been tested on 18 smaller groups and the response rates had been >>>> gauged. The worst-performing letters did only 15 -20 percent of what the >>>> best-performing emails could deliver. So if a good performer could do $2.5 >>>> million, a poor performer might only net $500,000. Does anyone know how >>>> much $$$ AGI research currently receives? >>>> >>>> By building our web frameworks with a shared content repository in >>>> mind, we'll unified what know on a scale that's never been seen before. The >>>> resulting platform will give us tools that help "force-multiply" >>>> volunteers, researchers, etc, giving them organizational and communication >>>> tools that will make them even more effective. On the research side, we’ll >>>> be able to better see relationships between concepts, provide information >>>> in different languages, use information to automatically create overviews >>>> of data (like lists or charts), or answer language-based questions that can >>>> hardly be answered automatically today. We’ll be able to merge all >>>> references to a concept onto a single topic and you will have access to all >>>> the information the systems knows about the concept in one place. And >>>> that’s just the beginning. On the technology side, the AGI portal will be >>>> is a true “Web of Data” platform that will publish and interlink web data >>>> according to the “Linked Data” principles developed by Tim Berners-Lee >>>> (inventor of the World Wide Web). The resulting structured data will allow >>>> not only humans to understand what's happening, but computers too. Which is >>>> truly exciting. >>>> >>>> Currently I'm working on a component >>>> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/API_Rationale to plug >>>> into the content repository.... >>>> >>>> A tech architecture of what I'm working on would look something like >>>> this: >>>> >>>> a) web editing tool: The web editing tool provides an interface for >>>> managing contents of the web pages. This includes features like rich text >>>> editing, workflows and image handling i.e. http://aloha-editor.org/ >>>> >>>> b) web framework: responsible of matching URL requests to particular >>>> content and generating corresponding web pages. This could be Drupal, >>>> Flow3, Django, CodeIgniter, Midgard MVC, or something similar. >>>> >>>> c) content repository: A content repository would manage content models >>>> and how to store them. This could be something like JCR, PHPCR, CouchDB or >>>> Midgard2. >>>> >>>> >>>> Seriously, AGI reseach = cancer, AIDS, heart disease, Alzheimer’s >>>> disease, Nanotechnology and clean energy reseach all in one. 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