fyi the last segment starts after the 40 minute mark http://video.pbs.org/video/2303503361/
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: > If each AGI with the intelligence of a human being costs 14 billion to > make, and the fastest way it can help us is to join one of the collective > games that millions of humans are joining to solve hard visual research > problems, then it's not cost effective, and not a faster way to solve > problems. There is no guarantee that a smarter as human AGI is going to be > able to create another AGI that is much smarter than a human being, the > idea of AGI that is billions of times smarter than all humans is a big > dream, not necessarily a realistic dream. > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Some people say "the end product resulting from AGI research = the end of >> human life on this planet" >> There is no reason to believe that diverting resources to AGI research >> will lead to an end to Alzheimer's more quickly than any other method. >> >> In particular we are now figuring out how to harness the brain's of >> hundreds of thousands of people in collective games that yeild new advances >> in science that no super computer can currently keep up with. >> >> There maybe much faster ways of solving the medical problems this world >> faces including possibly this method. >> >> For reference please watch the final segment of this video. >> http://video.pbs.org/video/2303503361/ >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Azn A <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes it does, AGI will make all those problems history. But don't worry, >>> as Nietzsche once said: "Truth is created by those who have the power to >>> enforce their point of view." >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Micah Blumberg <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> "AGI reseach = cancer, AIDS, heart disease, Alzheimer’s disease, >>>> Nanotechnology and clean energy reseach all in one." >>>> >>>> No it doesn't. >>>> 1. Paying for research does not equal paying for the delivery of a >>>> product. >>>> 2. A message isn't obvious until you campaign successfully to make that >>>> message obvious. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Azn A <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, so it's pretty clear that the AGI community needs a little >>>>> more than an email-list and forum combination... That is if we want to be >>>>> a >>>>> little more than a side show. AGI needs a coherent case, a community >>>>> center, and a unified data source to develop infrastructure to get money, >>>>> support, etc. Every AGI website needs be turned into a human-power, >>>>> machine-accelerated, collective knowledge system supporting an underlying >>>>> unified data source/content repository back-end. In other words, a >>>>> services >>>>> architecture that allows for all of our apps to connect together and share >>>>> one common data store. >>>>> >>>>> On the money side, this will allow stunning effectiveness in the use >>>>> of randomized, controlled experiments able to isolate cause and effect in >>>>> public activities, microtargeting: algorithms weighing as many as 1,000 >>>>> different personal variables to generate probabilities predicting whether >>>>> individual citizens will donate, etc. For example, the Obama campaign used >>>>> experimental methods to test nearly all of its online communications, >>>>> randomizing the design of Web pages, the timing of text message blasts, >>>>> and >>>>> the language of email solicitations to measure their relative >>>>> effectiveness. Any time you received an email from the Obama campaign, it >>>>> had been tested on 18 smaller groups and the response rates had been >>>>> gauged. The worst-performing letters did only 15 -20 percent of what the >>>>> best-performing emails could deliver. So if a good performer could do $2.5 >>>>> million, a poor performer might only net $500,000. Does anyone know how >>>>> much $$$ AGI research currently receives? >>>>> >>>>> By building our web frameworks with a shared content repository in >>>>> mind, we'll unified what know on a scale that's never been seen before. >>>>> The >>>>> resulting platform will give us tools that help "force-multiply" >>>>> volunteers, researchers, etc, giving them organizational and >>>>> communication >>>>> tools that will make them even more effective. On the research side, we’ll >>>>> be able to better see relationships between concepts, provide information >>>>> in different languages, use information to automatically create overviews >>>>> of data (like lists or charts), or answer language-based questions that >>>>> can >>>>> hardly be answered automatically today. We’ll be able to merge all >>>>> references to a concept onto a single topic and you will have access to >>>>> all >>>>> the information the systems knows about the concept in one place. And >>>>> that’s just the beginning. On the technology side, the AGI portal will be >>>>> is a true “Web of Data” platform that will publish and interlink web data >>>>> according to the “Linked Data” principles developed by Tim Berners-Lee >>>>> (inventor of the World Wide Web). The resulting structured data will allow >>>>> not only humans to understand what's happening, but computers too. Which >>>>> is >>>>> truly exciting. >>>>> >>>>> Currently I'm working on a component >>>>> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/API_Rationale to plug >>>>> into the content repository.... >>>>> >>>>> A tech architecture of what I'm working on would look something like >>>>> this: >>>>> >>>>> a) web editing tool: The web editing tool provides an interface for >>>>> managing contents of the web pages. This includes features like rich text >>>>> editing, workflows and image handling i.e. http://aloha-editor.org/ >>>>> >>>>> b) web framework: responsible of matching URL requests to particular >>>>> content and generating corresponding web pages. This could be Drupal, >>>>> Flow3, Django, CodeIgniter, Midgard MVC, or something similar. >>>>> >>>>> c) content repository: A content repository would manage content >>>>> models and how to store them. This could be something like JCR, PHPCR, >>>>> CouchDB or Midgard2. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Seriously, AGI reseach = cancer, AIDS, heart disease, Alzheimer’s >>>>> disease, Nanotechnology and clean energy reseach all in one. 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