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While I continue to recover from the shock of the news that some poor, hapless student was given a PhD for a paper written about the GOERTZEL's openCog crap, (the student was ripped off). I want to talk about a general problem that is preventing us from getting our AGI NOW.

My hypothesis is that we are currently on the climbing side of a hump effect in AI. That is, until we really understand the computations involved in AI, we will be spending more and more on ever larger and more baroque neural simulations. Once we are over that hump, and have an AI, we can start optimizing until the machine requirements for a very capable system are down in the $50-100k range, assuming no changes in hardware technology from today.

What would be really awesome would be if the Great Oracle would simply give us the theory we need, we could then spend a couple of mega-clams on ASIC design and, from there, go directly into mass production...

The problem, of course, is to try to optimize the process so that we don't have to climb all the way to the top of the hump before getting to AI. What pisses me off about uploaders, on this issue, is that they don't want to short-cut things, they want to go all the way to the top, and, presumably, stay there. =( That's not the way to go! You want to get to the vast fertile fields on the other side. That's the only place you are going to get any significant *QUALITATIVE* improvements in intelligence. Back-porting those improvements into your own being is a completely different and very interesting/important subject, and off-topic for the AGI list...

The only thing the uploaders try to offer you is an increase in "clock speed". They assume that you will also then require a similarly overclocked environment... This VR environment is typically presented as being secondary to the clock speed improvment. But the real paydirt is the qualitative improvments... That's where you get your wisdom, that's where you get your advanced capabilities. That's where you get your real IQ boosts.

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