On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > cyc hardly used an "obvious" approach, they used some kind of weird
> syntax to attempt to categorize a fallacy "common sense knowledge"
> something that doesn't objectively exist.
>
> Cyc uses augmented first order logic. Most approaches to AI prior to
> this used similar knowledge representation schemes because it is
> computationally cheap.
>

doesn't change what they are attempting to categorize.

>
> > topcoder competitions are interesting, in that with input, output, and
> output testing it may be possible to evolve functions.
> > Am hoping on using it later on to evolve drivers and things.
>
> In my list of 20 or so requirements for AI, I included the ability to
> write, test, and debug code.
>
> ya it's on my roadmap of GI-OS also.


> > who knows maybe one day there will be evolutionary algorithmic drivers
> so good they can beat human programmers. Anyways if that happens it'll
> still be a win for "narrow AI", similar to chess, and jeopardy, as it's a
> minor aspect of what it means to be a general intelligence.
>
> Evolution is much more computationally expensive than anything the
> brain does. It took evolution 3 billion years to create human
> intelligence on a planet sized molecular computer.
>
> sure well some algorithm..


> > Best way of proving AGI in an undeniable fashion, is to have "wild"
> AGI's robots running around self-replicating in the environment. Admitedly
> most wild organisms have brains significantly larger than those of their
> domestic counter-parts, so we may develop domestic AGI's first.
>
> No, that is the best way to wipe out humanity.


seriously that's just fear mongering.
Computers have a different ecological niche then that of biology,
they are better suited for cold dry environments, like polar deserts.


> And no, self
> replication + control is harder than self replication alone. It
> requires more intelligence.
>
>
that's plain false, as demonstrated by this image
http://sensualanimist.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/picture-0041.jpg
domestication of animals decreases brain size by about 10-30%



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