On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org> wrote:
> Aubrey, whose link I posted, does not believe the problem of aging will be
> solved in one fell swoop by a sudden breakthrough.

I didn't mean Aubrey de Grey. I meant Ponce de Leon.

> He believes that aging
> is a complex problem that will require multiple coordinated breakthroughs, and
> would like to see work funded on multiple relevant fronts:
>
> http://sens.org/sens-research/research-themes

He describes 7 processes of aging and how to treat them. I think we
will discover more once people start living 200 years. As we get older
the lenses in our eyes harden and the cartilage in our joints wears
out. What other body parts will wear out after another century? What
parts will grow in unexpected ways when we make our cells immortal?
Eventually we will need to replace all of our body parts including our
brains.

> The analogy with AGI is, roughly:
>
> -- You are arguing that the best approach to longevity research is
> "biopharma as usual"
>
> -- Aubrey is arguing that lots of funding specifically on the
> longevity problem, would work much better and faster
>
> and also
>
> -- You are arguing that the best approach to AGI is "narrow AI as usual"
>
> -- I am arguing that lots of funding specifically on AGI, would work
> much better and faster

I described a framework that can speed up the process of "narrow AI as
usual", namely a simpler way of integrating it all together into AGI
that is easy and fun to use. http://mattmahoney.net/agi2.html

Although I realize now that it does not solve the fundamental problem
of reputation networks tending toward centralized monopolies. Nobody
will trust the little guys unless a big guy vouches for them. Also,
implementing this as a service like Google or Facebook or Twitter
would not be fast or cheap.

I am optimistic that advanced technology will solve both AGI and aging
in the next couple hundred years.

--
-- Matt Mahoney, mattmahone...@gmail.com


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