On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Todor Arnaudov <[email protected]> wrote: >>Let's assume that we have cheap, powerful hardware (enough to model >>human brains) and that we solved the hard AI problems like language, >>vision, art, robotics, and modeling human behavior. > > Sorry, but I'll object again, none of those is a hard problem, at lest for > some AGI or natural GI agents.
OK, then why haven't you solved them yet? > Matt, I challenge you that a thinking machine that will learn to see, to > speak and to interact using the "unsolved" problem for multi-modal learning, > including tactile, in virtual worlds, can be run even on a Pentium Dual Core > E5200, even in 32-bit mode. Well, let it be overclocked a bit, say 3.33 GHz. > The stock speed of 2.5 GHz is benchmarked at up to several GFLOPS, > regarding: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/344462 > If there's some modest GPU - why not use it also, say a GeForce 8600 GT. It > will learn to see through web cameras and watching recorded videos using any > other cameras. Are you telling me the reason you haven't solved AGI yet is because you have an old computer? >>I assume that knowledge can be copied to identical robots. There will >>be some training cost paid to human teachers for any job that is even >>slightly different. How much will it cost to train robots to do all >>the work that humans do? > > Absolute nonsense, not that I'm saying something new, but that's utterly > non-AGI-sh like many of your posts. > What you say is "computers can ever do only what you know exactly how to > tell them how exactly to do and code it exactly each step of what it will do > with every specific situations". > > Zero learning and adaptation - why do you need grounding then? That limits > your programs to what your tiny working-memory can hold - a few bites. Do you know what grounding means? A blind person can tell you that the sky is blue. That is an example of ungrounded knowledge like you would find in a language model. > As of the work that humans are paid to do - a lot of it is for doing nothing > - a bunch of inefficient time-wasting or useless role playing games to make > the fake social system work as it is and keep the status-quo. An > elaboration goes also to another article, though. So employers pay people $70 trillion per year worldwide to do nothing? I guess that does make the problem easier, then. So as soon as you upgrade your computer, add a GPU, and write a bit of code we can expect the robots to take over, right? Why do I waste my time? -- -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
