No, I am not thinking about specific goals. So you are wrong. I believe that every concept is relatively general. So perhaps this is where your misunderstanding is coming from.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote: > It’s suicidal –in the real world. You won’t be able to adapt to new > situations (“sorry Chinese is off tonight”). > > You’re thinking in terms of specific goals.AGI is about general goals - > all living creatures are driven in the first instance by general drives and > general goals- not specific ones. > > Narrow AI is always specific – and your & every other AGI-er’s urges are > always to be specific – whereas AGI is the opposite. > > *From:* Jim Bromer <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:36 PM > *To:* AGI <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [agi] Could Algorithm Generators be a Feasible and > Effective AGI Method? > > It is not suicidal to set goals and a remark like that shows that you > are on the wrong track. Just because the goals that we are most interested > in may be elusive that does not mean that we cannot use goal strategies to > help us learn what is achievable and acceptable. The irony of course is > that once we discover more realizable goals we usually find that our > previous goals were not only not realizable but they were really not that > desirable. > > Pursuing unclear goals are not the path you choose. Evidently, you have > to decide whether that is a path you would like to take. > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]>wrote: > >> *Jim: So if a goal is clearly definable (for an AGi program)...* >> ** >> *No goals are clearly definable in AGI – at the program level as opposed >> to in particular situations. What are the goals of real world activities – >> like conversation/ reading [science/lit..] books..? You can set goals in >> particular situations ... “I want Chinese tonight” But in general, it >> would be suicidal and isn’t possible. AGI is about creative machines >> dealing with a creative world – in which both the machine and the world >> keep changing, and there is no way of predicting what food (or other goal >> instantiations) will be available, or what of the vast untried number of >> cuisines might be worth sampling, or what condition/state your body will be >> in and therefore what foods it will be attracted to . The goals of an AGI >> have to be general, vague and capable of continuous refinement - and new >> combinations with other goals.* >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10561250-470149cf> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10561250-470149cf> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
