Anastasios, I'm not sure, but your comments suggest you missed my primary point...
The 3D chips do the same computing as 2D chips. 99.99% of ANNs work in 3D, some having other dimensions derived from the original 3D, but without time doing much of anything. There are some serious challenges in driving time information from samples, which roughly correspond to driving scene information from discrete pixels, in short, you need LOTS more points to learn to recognize things than it theoretically takes to recognize things once you know what you are looking for. It appears that my point may be so subtle that you missed it. In short: Time is really like the other 3 dimensions, complete with similar shifting boundaries, etc, yet pretty much everyone in AGI either ignores it, or handles it ENTIRELY differently (and dysfunctaionally). Steve ==================== On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Anastasios Tsiolakidis < [email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Steve Richfield <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> interest in 4 dimensions > > > > Very naughty of you Steve to bring up such a vague topic where you know > most of the answers anyway > > 1) we are all doing 2D computing as 3D chips are still in the making > 2) as data scientists we do xD computing where x need not correspond to > the 3 or 4 or 50 physical dimensions, if the problem space becomes clearer > in 5D we create derivative dimensions from our data, if it behaves just > fine with 1 or 2 we compress the extra dimensions > 3) no AGI will afford to ignore physical reality, but again it may choose > to up- or "downsample" it at will, given that all actuators have their > physical importance it would shock nobody if the DoFs became Ds, wether > conceptually or actually. > 4) ANNs are the only domain where we can legitimately talk of high-D > "wiring", but you are no doubt aware that 2D and 3D neural topologies are > anything but hopeless, rather Turing equivalent, general purpose computers. > > Why did you put your fingers in this cookie jar? > > AT > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
