Can you put your thoughts into a single requirements document, numbering each requirement. Then can you put your design into a single design document with a few diagrams. Tying each design element back to the requirement? That's standard software is designed; it helps developers get to working code very quickly.
(If you haven't document your proposed system that may be the reason why it's taking so long.) ~PM Well, thank you for your suggestion. It is taking a long time because I feel that it is comprised of difficult problems. I now think that I finally have it figured out, but of course I still have to work thousands of details out within an actual program and then test my ideas to see if they actually do work. I would not be able to number every requirement. I think that sort of task might be more appropriate for an engineering problem, especially when the work has to be done by numerous team members and the work has to be closely integrated (just because people tend to come up with ad-hoc interpretations and solutions to complicated projects even if they are well designed). It is more important for me to be well-trained to react to the kinds of situations that I expect to be confronted with. I have to remember all the details of my basic ideas to deal with conjectured problems so that they will tie in to my fundamental ideas. I need to remember all the details of my fundamental ideas because they are the keys to solving the problems. I just wrote something down this morning and it is almost meaningless (in spite of the fact that I was writing about "meaning"). The problem is that the words I used were flat, when the specifics of the ideas I was thinking of were rich and complex. For example, I did not use the word "meaning" to mean what we usually think about, but to mean all the possible associations that might be relevant to a word in the context that it was used in. So if someone else read my notes they would be unable to understand what I really meant (meant in the more traditional sense but maybe not) just because my intended meaning was something much deeper and more dynamic and something or another. However, I will try to think about your use of the word "requirements" to see if I can gain some of the richness that you probably have illuminated that word with in your mind. Jim Bromer On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]>wrote: > Jim, > > Can you put your thoughts into a single requirements document, numbering > each requirement. > Then can you put your design into a single design document with a few > diagrams. Tying each > design element back to the requirement? That's standard software is > designed; it helps developers > get to working code very quickly. > > (If you haven't document your proposed system that may be the reason why > it's taking so long.) > > ~PM > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:53:37 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [agi] Steps of Thought Will Follow the Discovery of > Forms-of-Thought > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Everything I say is a summary. But if I provided an extensive collection > of my ideas you would not be any more interested than you have been. > However, I was not complaining about that. > > I have integrated many good ideas into my thinking. > You must have missed my favorite criticism. Someone once got annoyed with > me and he told me: > "You are not a genius, you are not well read and everything you say has > already appeared in the literature!" > > I could not think of anything to say when he first said it, but later I > wondered: Hey, if I am not a genius and I am not well read then how does he > explain that everything I say has already appeared in the literature???? > > To look at an example, when I talk about generalization or specification I > am not claiming that I am the first person to come up with those concepts. > But on the other hand I am not going to spend all of my time studying Greek > and classical philosophy just so I can get the concepts - as they were used > in ancient medieval and Victorian philosophy - just right. > > Although I enjoy talking to other people about this stuff and I get into > the rivalries, my real interest is in trying to figure out how to get an > AGI program working. Although I don't agree with a lot of your ideas I am > still interested in trying to understand how you think your ideas would > work. I can sometimes use that information to see how other methods might > parallel my own and I also find that the disagreements sometimes causes me > to react in unexpected ways. > > However, if after all the stuff I have written in this group you don't > think I have expressed my ideas about AGI I have to conclude that you just > have not been paying attention. > Jim Bromer > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Anastasios Tsiolakidis < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a legitimate question but the problem is that I have been talking > about this stuff endlessly for fourteen years. > > > > That's quite a mystifying statement, do you mean it will be difficult to > summarize? 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