And your statement that I failed to adapt myself to other people's comments and 
that that is an adaptation failure is absurd.  Every time I write a reply I am 
adapting to someone's comments.   So I guess if your original statement still 
stands as is I will be pretty safe ignoring it.   Andi and the two Mikes are 
not going to be writing any AGI programs.  But you will be.  We will be able to 
see who wasn't seeing the bigger picture next year. Jim Bromer
 From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [agi] I'd Rather Talk About AGI
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:45:10 -0700




Whatever feedback is accepted, becomes an adaptation (to the feedback). 
Whatever feedback is rejected is a failure to adapt (to the feedback).
The original statement stands as is.
In your case Jim, you've failed to adapt yourself to other people's comments.  
That's your decision. But it is an adaptation failure.  You should recognize 
that.
~PM

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [agi] I'd Rather Talk About AGI
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:18:37 -0400




There  is a difference between rejecting one particular kind of feedback and 
rejecting all feedback.  You made an error of overgeneralization.
 
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [agi] I'd Rather Talk About AGI
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:07:58 -0700




Some Cognitive Systems accept feedback and incorporate it, thereby adapting to 
their environment.Other Cognitive Systems reject feedback, and fail to adapt. 
~PM

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [agi] I'd Rather Talk About AGI
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:04:05 -0400




AGI is a little beyond the fringe of feasibility right now. So there is almost 
no risk of discovering that your criticism of someone's speculation about AGI 
was really stupid.  However, that does not mean that your criticisms are 
insightful.
 
If a criticism does not include something about a central issue of AGI then it 
is not really that great a criticism.  I do appreciate noting that I used the 
wrong word and I appreciate the suggestion that I think about presenting my 
ideas as if I was delivering a power point presentation to a group.  But a 
diagram of my ideas, for example, would not help at this point.  I haven't 
written the program or started dividing the AGI part into modules so a diagram 
would just add to the nonsense.
 
There is no question that a major reason for  this group is to discuss 
speculative ideas about AGI programs and the fact that some people are not able 
to appreciate or get another person's ideas them does not stand as an 
intellectual basis for a justification of dismissing them.
 
On the other hand, a person who has a good criticism now and then but who is 
constantly badgering people who disagree with him is just drowning himself out. 
 I always think it is a waste to see someone who has something to insightful to 
say once in a while but totally lacks the discretion to know how to filter the 
garbage.
 
Jim Bromer 
                                          


  
    
      
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