Computers running algorithms can't be creative. Period. Never have never will produce one single new element - one new action, one new object.
Creativity is the unsolved computational problem - producing new and different courses of action, not reproducing the same old, same old. Stop making excuses and start dealing with it.. On 9 October 2013 17:00, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > Right. We expect something special to happen when computers surpass human > intelligence. As if such a thing had any meaning. > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> His point is obviously that we define intelligence somewhat arbitrarily >> and self-centeredly as "whatever humans can do but computers can't" >> >> This is an overstatement but has some truth to it ;) >> >> ... ben g >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM, tintner michael < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Did I miss something? You're saying AGI is unsolved because ... AGI is >>> unsolved ? >>> >>> Brilliant! >>> >>> >>> On 9 October 2013 14:48, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1ZaTlA92vUwCzKFXh_wOnFAVrGLGgzUyDj3wNfUS-PWI >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> AGI >>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>> RSS Feed: >>>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5 >>>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>> >>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>> >>> >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> http://goertzel.org >> >> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/3701026-786a0853> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > > > -- > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
