" Creativity is one of those things in that
.. humans can do but
computers cannot. "

No.. it's something **algos**. can't do, but robots driven by computers can
do it.  Robots can improvise like humans.You've been told this scores of
times, but since AGI for you equals "same old, same old", (as you've said),
you can never  remember it. What we have here is a case of neophobia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neophobia
And possibly amnesia/ early dementia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia




On 9 October 2013 22:38, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:13 PM, tintner michael
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Nothing but nothing algos do is creative.
>
> Of course you are right. Creativity is one of those things in that
> ever shrinking part of the Venn diagram that humans can do but
> computers cannot. When Kurzweil built a computer out of primitive
> hardware and programmed it to write music, we credit him with being
> creative. We don't credit a bunch of relays. They were just switching
> on and off according to the algorithm that Kurzweil had programmed
> into the machine.
>
> Likewise, we credit the scientists at IBM, not Watson, with using a
> creative approach to winning at Jeopardy. Watson is just a bunch of
> transistors switching on and off.
>
> It does not matter how powerful our computers get, or how
> sophisticated the software. It was all created by humans. AI is by
> definition impossible, because only humans can be intelligent. If you
> developed a machine that passed the Turing test, it would just show
> how smart you were.
>
>
> --
> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
>
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