Matt, We don't want a robot that can create a course of action *without* being specifically preprogrammed by an army of programmers?
We don't want a robot that we can tell to take a journey *without* having to give them an itinerary and a route map? Just tell them GO TO THE SHOPS GO THROUGH THAT WOOD GO THROUGH THAT HOUSE AND GET X, Y, ? We only want robots that can only operate in prefabricated environments like factories and warehouses and special road systems? We don't want a robot that can create a structure *without* a blueprint? that can... PUT THOSE CLOTHES IN A HEAP BUILD A ROCK WALL FILL THAT HOLE without being given a special design beforehand? We only want robots that can make predesigned things in factories? We don't want a robot that can have a conversation without a scriot? We only want chatbots? We don't want a robot that can operate in the real world. we just want robots that can only function in artificial environments as at present? That's what humans do - that's what current computers can't do - continuously create new, different courses of action in the real world wthout scripts/formulae/algos. We don't follow a script, we write the script as we go along. So we don't want that? We don't want robots that we can just give a brief to, like humans, in a line or two - CLEAR THAT ROOM, BUILD A FIRE, DISPOSE OF THE RUBBISH, GO AND STOMP ON MATT ? We only want robots that we have to laboriously program thousands-of-steps-by-steps beforehand? You haven't got a clue what AGI is about, Matt. The new epoch of AI is about doing what humans and animals do - creativity - creating new courses of action, WITHOUT a specially prepared plan of action - because you CAN'T preplan for the new or the real world - it's physically and computationally impossible. And we want those robots, and we will get them. On 9 October 2013 18:27, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:13 PM, tintner michael > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Computers running algorithms can't be creative. Period. Never have never > will produce one single new element - one new action, one new object. > > It's not that they can't be creative, but that we don't want them to > be. We usually program computers to do the drudge work and save the > fun stuff for ourselves. > > But creativity doesn't require a lot of advanced technology. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Neivqp2K4 > > > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/6952829-59a2eca5 > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
